• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      You know that there are death camps in North Korea to this day right? Where as South Korea does not have any death camps.

      US went out of its way to stop the spread of the communism and destabilize socialist countries in the 20th century. I think these foreign policy decisions were a mistake. Our focus should be on a country’s political structure and not its economic structure.

      Afghanistan HAD democracy under the DRA

      One party systems are not democracy. edit: spacing

      And Iraq, this MUST be the single democratic war fought by the U.S. right?

      This is a straw man. I don’t agree with the war in Iraq. Read my comments if you don’t believe me. Iraq gained democracy which is the only silver lining I can think of but their government has since backslid to the detriment of the Iraqi people. Hopefully they will make a course correction.

      Say that bs “oh I guess they weren’t ready for democracy” nonsense again I dare you. You don’t deserve to prance around these topics and “learn” by defending horrific atrocities and seeing what responses you get.

      Democracy cannot be forced. If people don’t fight to defend it, it will be taken away. edit: grammar

      I’ve spent a lot of time learning about these topics because they interest me. But I’m certainly not an expert.

        • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          Your reply barely addresses anything lmao.

          The feeling is mutual.

          Here you go. I found a bunch on the topic. This was my google search: death camps in north kora

          I even spelled it wrong and still found it, lol.

          https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/02/09/un-finds-torture-forced-labor-still-rampant-north-korean-prisons

          Feel free to give me an alternate interpretation.

          Bush wanted revenge for the assassination plot against his dad by Sadddam and a think tank tried to justify it with bringing democracy to Iraq. The war brought democracy, but it doesn’t seem to be lasting. Democratic institutions have to be actively maintained. Hopefully democracy will last in Iraq. And there were no weapons of mass destruction.

          where people were not ready for it.

          Everyone is ready for democracy. I believe everyone is capable of choosing to fight for democracy. The fact is people in Afghanistan choose not to fight for their democracy. Their military accepted bribes from the Taliban and the citizens did not rise up in response. I watched the news, it happened very quickly.

          We need to learn from our mistakes. We need to do better. Throwing our hands and giving up because of moral issues is not helpful.

            • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              Right…so are you saying you agree with that or do you not understand what is you posted? People from Hexbear, like yourself, are defending the Taliban and North Korea in this comment section. That’s boot licking if I ever saw it. (also fuck tankies)

              • SunsetFruitbat [she/her]@hexbear.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Boot licking as you defend american imperialism? Are you gonna defend shit like this to where america pretty much just terrorizes school children? like here https://theintercept.com/2020/12/18/afghanistan-cia-militia-01-strike-force/

                also how do you feel about shit like this? https://www.salon.com/2015/02/14/i_no_longer_love_blue_skies_what_life_is_like_under_the_constant_threat_of_a_drone_attack_partner/

                honestly, fuck you, I didn’t want to say anything but people who defend american imperialism, pisses me the fuck off. You whine about tankies and shit, meanwhile you defend american imperialism that responsible for so much evil, woe and trouble in the world. its funny how you defend america when america hates its own fucking people. literally the country with the biggest incarceration population on the planet, but surely america believes in “freedom” and “democracy”. also what, freedom to starve on the streets? freedom to be homeless? freedom to get into medical debt? that fucking freedom? meanwhile those “authoritarian” like aes countries are more free than america will ever be.

                also just want to point something else out but since you care so much about “terrorists”. how do you feel knowing people join up with some of those terrorist groups just so they can defend their homeland because they saw america kill their friends, family, children, and so on? also how you defend some american soldiers doing shit like shotting children just for playing in the streets? fuck right off.