• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Is anybody really surprised that a billionaire politician abuses his office to make more money? That is the Number One reason why those people go into politics - to be able to distribute the pork barrels directly, without the need to pay other politicians like they normally do.

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      And this one didn’t even need to get elected (tbf neither did the last 2, or is it 3?), they just sit there and wait their turn at playing leader, when they do their best to fill their pockets by picking apart public services.

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      Ha. It feels good to have such a benevolent leader here in the US. He never talks business with his family. He only talks about the weather when family members call him on the phone. Whatever profits are made are because they are the smartest people he knows.

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      The UK populace is making a run at the throne for dumbest electorate in the world. USA has been the undisputed champ for years, but UK swinging!

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        To be fair its not like the public even voted Sunak in, they voted Boris in and we then got the Tory’s hand me downs (not that Boris was any better, granted)

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          Very few people in the UK ever vote a PM into power, and even those people only vote them in as an MP, technically.

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          you don’t vote for the prime minister, you vote for the party. no prime minister gets their position because the public wants them to. it’s an actual illusion of choice

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            While you are of course entirely right, people do tend to vote based on the issues the head of the party is championing at the time so I’d argue that it’s slightly more nuanced than just voting for the party given how the head of each party steers the policy in different directions

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          Boris was an intellectual equal with the president of the United States at the time of his election, so I don’t know how they can talk.

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        as bad as Truss was she at least fucked off before completely driving the country down the shitter

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    Of all the family values to export out of India, corruption and nepotism seem to be on top of Murthy family’s list.

    ps : Sunak’s wife and Narayan Murthy’s daughter had avoided paying taxes on her nearly $1-billion fortune. Infoys also has a history of tax issues in a number of jurisdictions, including UK.

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      A. that’s racist

      B. He was born in England, and his parents are Indians from East Africa

      It’s racist because his values are not Indian, they come from England

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        A. Pointing out acts of nepotism and tax avoidance is not racist.
        B. The comment was on his in-laws, their firm, and their daughter’s values.

        Sunak’s British values haven’t stopped his wife & his in-laws from tax avoidance and from profiting via nepotism, to which he, the PM of UK, is at best a passive participant and at worst actively involved.

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          It’s definitely racist when you say that those are Indian family values. It’s not racist is you say those are Sunak family values.

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            Nepotism and corruption are a way of life with India and particularly in a Indian family firm. How do I know? I’m Indian as is the Murthy family. I’m pointing out that they’re doing their misdeeds outside India.

            If you see their actions as not being examples of nepotism and corruption or if you consider nepotism and corruption to not be misdeeds, you’ll need to explain.

            I cannot comment on Sunak’s family values, but they can’t be good if he enables his wife’s tax avoidance and his in-laws profiting via nepotism.

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      Let me put things this way: In the UK all investigation and prosecution of Corruption is the sole responsability of the Serious Fraud Office.

      Ever since the 80s, almost every single year under governments of the 2 major parties and even a cohalition one with the 3rd largest party, the funding of the SFO has fallen in real terms, to the point that it’s now at the level of the funding of a town council.

      Just as recently as 2017 (if I remember the year correctly) the head of the SFO said they could only afford to prosecute a single large case per year.

      By the way these are also the guys with responsability for prosecuting fraud, including Financial Fraud, in a country with over 50 million people, the 6th largest GDP in the World (last I checked) and were 17% of GDP comes from the Finance Industry (to give you a feeling of the size of it).

      (Remember, they have the budged of a town council, maybe a small city one, to uphold the multiple areas of the Law, and do so for the whole country)

      So of course there are no corrupt people in Britain, because nobody ever gets investigated for it much less prossecuted and convicted and if you ever point at anybody as corrupt there, they’ll crack down on you using Libel Legislation (which is so broad I remember this one time not that long ago that an Ukranian Oligarch used British Courts - which took the case - to punish an Ukrainian website who had a post in ukranian accusing him of corruption in Ukraine and the British judges in a British High Court took the case because “it could be accessed from Britain”).

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      If a Tory resigns every time they do something corrupt we’d get through them pretty quickly.

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        Are y’all not going through them pretty quickly? I seem to recall something about bacon and lettuce, with a certain red-faced fellow potentially being the tomato that completes the sandwich.

        In the absence of snark if the person/party resigning gets to essentially pick their replacement then their is quite obviously no reason not to just do whatever hideous shit you want to, then resign and escape responsibility entirely.

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          No the problem is the system has broken down. Normally they don’t do shit like this because it costs them votes, but since they know they’re going to lose anyway they now don’t care anymore. This is a very obvious floor with the system but it’s never been fixed because up until relatively recently, MPs tended to act with least a little bit of decorum / The scandals they got up to were mostly related to having various affairs, rather than inappropriate financial dealings.

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            Sounds like y’all are gonna have to figure out a way to make the law apply to the rich. Good luck. We’re trying over here as well and there’s been some progress lately but it’s been less about getting the rich to submit to the rule of law and more about us getting so pissed off at one of them that the rest of them are willing to sacrifice him to maintain their own patrician standing.

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      In a literal theft from the people sense? Yes. In reality? No, he’s rich so he can do what he wants. Laws are to keep us poor in check, not to be fair.

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      Don’t you even try. The people voted the Tories, UK is not a dictatorship. We are paying the consequences of our stupidity.

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        We are paying the consequences of our stupidity.

        FPTP-voting was designed by ancient wealthy romans in order for them to maintain rule regardless of voter-outcomes, this system is inherently flawed in favor of the rich as it makes it easy for them to manipulate. Donate enough to both sides and it’s all business as usual no matter the opinion of the populace. In too many places it’s a trait of leaving democracy as a mere experiment and bonkers to continue without reform in modern times.

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          In all fairness, FPTP did create one of the oldest, most successful democracies that ever existed on the planet. Now, I’m not saying it shouldn’t be reformed (it should be), but calling it a straight up terrible no good isn’t right either

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            If you’re talking about Westminster, then I don’t agree. The measure of success for a democracy must be how well it represents the people. At this, Westminster has failed and continues to fail. The country itself has been very successful, historically. Its common people however have been subjugated and oppressed.

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      He’s not a dictator because of the simple evidence that he’s terrified he’s going to lose his job which is why he’s pulling shit like this. Got to get all of the money out of the system before he’s thrown out of office along with his useless party.