The stance puts Kennedy — who’s mounting long shot bid to unseat President Joe Biden as the Democratic standard bearer in 2024 — out of step with most of his party.

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    The most radical members of parties control primaries of you don’t do that, which leads to blowout losses in contested districts (where the party will prop members up) and ever-increasing radicalization in other districts.

    Do you like that the Republican Party is marching in lockstep toward fascism? Because what you’re arguing for is why they are.

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      The most radical members of parties control primaries of you don’t do that

      So why have primaries at all, then?

      Your assertion that centrists are even remotely interested in stopping fascism is completely ridiculous. If centrists fought fascism instead of fighting progressives, I’d have less of a problem with them.

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        Primaries predate the obscene gerrymandering of 2010, which led to where we are now. Prior to this gerrymandering, both parties were more representative of local population.

        Democrats got the shit end of the stick, and have a more robust party system due to already being a coalition part, thus the collapse into dedicated districts harmed the party less.

        For a really detailed look at this, I highly recommend “Why we’re polarized” by Ezra Klein and “What’s our problem” by Tim Urban (the latter being more an examination of the “groupthink” problem tied to polarizaion)

        I’m not sure what you define as “centrist” or “fighting fascism” but that seems like an irrelevant take in the ran scheme, given how the actual politics works.

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          Primaries predate the obscene gerrymandering of 2010, which led to where we are now. Prior to this gerrymandering, both parties were more representative of local population.

          Jesus Christ, I didn’t know you were actually opposed to getting rid of primaries altogether. I mean, granted, it tracks, but I didn’t expect you to come right out and admit that you believe party leadershit should decide without the input of voters.

          I’m not sure what you define as “centrist” or “fighting fascism” but that seems like an irrelevant take in the ran scheme, given how the actual politics works.

          It’s neat how you went from “OMG YOU WANT FASCISTS TO WIN” to “meh, fascism is irrelevant” when it stopped suiting you.

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            You very clearly did not understand that first paragraph, which leads to the nonsense of your second.

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              When centrists lose an argument, they go straight to the condescension. Concession accepted.

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                A) not a centrist by any sane definition (you haven’t supplied yours)

                B) you ignored me teaching you and supplying actual references, and went straight to meme-level takes, so yeah, condescension

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                  A) not a centrist by any sane definition (you haven’t supplied yours)

                  Dude, you said that Clinton was your favorite politician.

                  B) you ignored me teaching you

                  Your “teaching” was the standard “you’re to my left therefore you want fascism” shit that centrists use.