• fluffplush@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    “Our meat program” Literal support for the corpseflesh industry isn’t “vegan”. If you want to keep animals away from slaughter, support actual sanctuaries that aren’t threatening to kill anyone, or take a bolt cutter and break the cages and fences yourself.

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    11 months ago

    landscape Regen

    Soil building

    Biodiversity

    While cattle can certainly help with these things, even small scale ops are often poorly managed. I’ve seen a fuck ton of over grazed and compacted pasture

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      @nm @vegan

      Bingo. “Your” cow goes to slaughter.

      And yes, this is to acknowledge the other subthread here that this advertisement supports a notion of nonhuman animals as property, thus is not at all animal rights friendly. I leave to others whether a #vegan can support this—I certainly wouldn’t.

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    @nm @vegan Imagine a dog meat farmer did this and said to the non-dog eaters they will spare this dog and not kill them for meat if you pay them a monthly fee.

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    The comments here had me expecting a Save Toby type of thing. Look it up! It was both funny and quite messed up! Much worse than this.

    Personally, I’m seeing this a little differently. Small animal farms don’t exactly earn a lot of money. If people are only willing to pay for meat, then those animals really have to be slaughtered and sold. There’s no financially viable alternative. Especially given that it costs real money to care for a single large animal like a cow or horse. I can confidently say that $50 per month is quite low for the cost of a single cow.

    Don’t eat meat! That’s the solution, right? If the world stops eating meat, then those farm raised animals won’t be slaughtered for food. Great! But then those same farms still need to produce food and won’t carry live stock. Which means that those animals simply wouldn’t exist going forward. Lots more plants and fast fewer animals. There are other reasons why that’s probably a good thing but it’s a tangent.

    If you want these animals to be farm raised and simply live a long, happy life, then paying a farm to keep them seems like a good option to me.

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      You don’t get it, this is a scam to get vegans to form a emotional attachment with a young cow and it will be used as leverage. Independent animal farms are a tiny minority and especially under pressure to neglect a animal’s needs for profit in a industry that has normalized it to a terrifying extent.

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        Oh sure, very possibly or even likely. But what’s the alternative? As far as I can see, it’s either these animals being butchered for profit or basically going extinct. All bad options

        Edit: I went back to read the title from the image. The “vegan” label on there is very pointed. Seems derogatory.

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          The alternative is not breeding living beings just to imprison and exploit them. Going extinct isn’t “bad”, especially when the alternative is what we currently inflict on them. That said, you can always support sanctuaries. You know those places taking in animals that specifically don’t have a literal “meat-program”?

        • Stephanie Jane ⓥ@veganism.social
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          @Lodra @kttnpunk Another other alternative is that when the fharmed species of these animals - which have been specifically and unnaturally engineered by us over many generations solely to fulfil our desires from their bodies - are no longer forcibly bred, this would free up vast areas of land on which their wild brethren would be able to flourish, unmolested, again.
          To claim breeding animals solely to kill them is the only way to stop them going extinct is disingenuous at best.