many 14 year olds in the UK are two years away from finishing school.
Nothing wrong at all with them learning to turn up on time, get on with co-workers, budget their wages etc. Stand them in great stead for 2 years later when they are into the real world. 16 year old looking for work after leaving school stands a much better chance if they already have work experience
Your argument is really “we did it before, so it’s fine”? We did a ton of things before that aren’t ok. Historical usage of a thing doesn’t make it ok.
Weird, because UNICEF seems to disagree. But hey, they don’t work in benefits and taxation, so what would they know about child mental and physical health?
Sure, just as ‘top notch’ as suggesting it’s good for children to make bloated plutocrat corporatists richer off the sweat of their backs rather than enjoy their childhoods because “it never hurt me.”
And, by the way, what exactly do you think will happen to young teenage girls tending bar? Do you think they won’t be sexually harassed by drunk older men, possibly raped?
Or did you forget that this was about allowing young girls to serve alcohol to drunk adults?
I don’t care how nice or high-end your bar is, children don’t belong in a bar. And it doesn’t matter how protective the bar is of staff, a place where adults gather to drink alcohol is a completely inappropriate environment for children.
This is about the U.S. based on the article and you are talking about how school works in a completely different country. In the U.S., middle school is a step between elementary and high school for kids age 12-14 who are too mature for elementary school but not mature enough to be treated with real responsibility yet.
Expecting a child, and they are children, to go out and earn a living at 14 is ridiculous. Especially when it will be a horrible entry-level low-skill miserable job that will just make them unhappy.
“It didn’t do me any harm” is not a reason to do something. And I would say that you have no idea how it harmed your development. People make that claim about getting beaten as kids too.
No child abandonment is illegal. Surrendering your child is legal if done a certain amount of time after birth. Thanks for admitting you know nothing about these laws though.
14-year-olds often aren’t even in high school yet. That is too young to be working a real job.
many 14 year olds in the UK are two years away from finishing school.
Nothing wrong at all with them learning to turn up on time, get on with co-workers, budget their wages etc. Stand them in great stead for 2 years later when they are into the real world. 16 year old looking for work after leaving school stands a much better chance if they already have work experience
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Sorry, why should a middle schooler be doing physical labor? This sounds like nightmare capitalism.
Sure, if you ignore all of human history it sounds like nightmare capitalism.
You mean all of human history when we had things like slavery and women as property? Yeah, we should keep doing that stuff too, right?
No, you’re making up things to be angry at. Children working existed before capitalism.
Your argument is really “we did it before, so it’s fine”? We did a ton of things before that aren’t ok. Historical usage of a thing doesn’t make it ok.
No. Children working existed before capitalism, you’re grasping straws coming up with that conclusion of what I said.
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Weird, because UNICEF seems to disagree. But hey, they don’t work in benefits and taxation, so what would they know about child mental and physical health?
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Sure, just as ‘top notch’ as suggesting it’s good for children to make bloated plutocrat corporatists richer off the sweat of their backs rather than enjoy their childhoods because “it never hurt me.”
And, by the way, what exactly do you think will happen to young teenage girls tending bar? Do you think they won’t be sexually harassed by drunk older men, possibly raped?
Or did you forget that this was about allowing young girls to serve alcohol to drunk adults?
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Considering it’s bad for adult women working in bars… https://www.cosmopolitan.com/career/a15334055/female-bartenders-sexually-harassed-at-work/
I don’t care how nice or high-end your bar is, children don’t belong in a bar. And it doesn’t matter how protective the bar is of staff, a place where adults gather to drink alcohol is a completely inappropriate environment for children.
A 16yro with a job vs a 14 yro with a job is a HUGE difference. Those 2 years are massive in development. 14 yro’s should not have a real job yet
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This is about the U.S. based on the article and you are talking about how school works in a completely different country. In the U.S., middle school is a step between elementary and high school for kids age 12-14 who are too mature for elementary school but not mature enough to be treated with real responsibility yet.
Expecting a child, and they are children, to go out and earn a living at 14 is ridiculous. Especially when it will be a horrible entry-level low-skill miserable job that will just make them unhappy.
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“It didn’t do me any harm” is not a reason to do something. And I would say that you have no idea how it harmed your development. People make that claim about getting beaten as kids too.
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So working at 13 years old guarantees you will be good with your money? Or not working at 13 years old guarantees you won’t?
Because it would seem to me that teaching children financial literacy would be a better plan than allowing corporations to benefit from child labor.
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Unless those few hours of a weekend are serving drunk men as a teenage girl, you mean. Then there’s a huge amount of potential for hurt.
Well you didn’t learn to spell “bollocks” for starters.
So you will now quite happily send your 14 yr old daughter to go stand pulling pints in amongst a group of drunken men?
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I was abandoned by my parents, didn’t do me any harm. Guess child abandonment should be legal according to your logic.
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No child abandonment is illegal. Surrendering your child is legal if done a certain amount of time after birth. Thanks for admitting you know nothing about these laws though.