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      Ah yes the same evil capitalism that:

      1. Allowed SO to exist in the first place
      2. Have market incentive to get anywhere near as good as they once were

      Do you have a better system in mind?

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        Allowed SO to exist in the first place

        Prove that this was a necessary condition in the first place. Places to freely trade information with other people existed before “captialism” was even a word.

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            Woah, money. Such a complicated concept that it only exists in capitalism!!

            Damn you are grasping at straws man.

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          Answer my original question first and you have your proof or not. If you can’t answer, there’s your proof.

          Yeah, information was freely traded before the advent of capitalism, and you’re still free to walk over to your neighbor’s house and ask questions about your code, but they’re not going to be near the quality of a large scale service like SO.

          Where do you expect the resources to come from to have and serve content reliably? They don’t run on hatred of capitalism, they run on money.

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            Prove your claim first then ask him to prove his. Even you yourself just admitted such things existed before capitalism. Therefore you concede his point. Prove your point.

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            They don’t run on hatred of capitalism, they run on money.

            I’m pretty sure there’s a “hatred of capitalism” cable going in every Stack Overflow server rack! Don’t believe it? Well just answer my question, if you can’t, then there’s your proof

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            In the early days of the internet, most content was not financially motivated. It was motivated by wanting to connect and a genuine altruistic feeling

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        Stack overflow could only generate and moderate its content through collectivism.

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          That’s true, but does your answer on SO pay the bills for running and serving the content?

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          That legitimately reads like it was written by a teenager who played a bunch of strategy games.

          So much of it is “this is how it will be” in a prescriptive tone as if you can just will things into existence.

          You could describe perfect capitalism in this exact manner, but obviously things don’t work in real life according to your perfect scenario.

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              China is successful from the capitalistic point of view, but it failed to uphold the ideals and principles of the system described in the document. The exploitation of the people is through the roof.

              Edit:

              To further explain my point: Communism is a flawed system that cannot exist in its idealistic form due to the excessive concentration of power in the state, leading to three potential outcomes:

              1. The collapse of the country.
              2. The transformation into a state capitalist system, as seen in China.
              3. The transformation into an authoritarian regime, as seen in North Korea.

              Communism is, in my opinion, a pipe dream because it proposes a classless, stateless society where the means of production are collectively owned and wealth is distributed equally among all members. However, in practice, historical attempts at implementing communism have faced challenges in terms of human nature, central planning inefficiencies, and lack of incentives, leading to economic stagnation, authoritarian rule, and often the collapse of the system.