• albigu
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    1 year ago

    Did you know a lot of research is both posted on and based on those “time wasting” sites such as Youtube, Twitter and TikTok? Since social media is such a big fixture of our societies, social scientists basically depend on them for a lot of cool research that is now getting blocked by nonsense. Not to mention that “state networks” means literally public Wi-Fi. How terrified are you of TikTok that you’re more afraid of it hacking your Wi-Fi than literally every other proprietary software?

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      1 year ago

      I’m not sure when you graduated, but YouTube has never and will never be considered a valid source. You need to be looking at research papers, studies, newspaper articles and shit. At best the YouTube video might have sources in it’s description and then you reference those sources, not youtube.

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        Research is way more than just “valid sources” as though it’s only based on what is cited on the final peer-reviewed papers. In the process of researching something you might want to watch lectures, see different short materials, tutorials on how to set up specific software and access all sorts of educational and information YouTube. Besides that social media is frequently used by scientists themselves both to communicate between each other as well as to make accessible materials for non-scientists. And that is not even including research that requires looking into those social media, like say social media analysis.

        I’m not sure when have you last taken part in academic research but social media has been an important part of researcher life for longer than it has been for the average public. Get down from your high horse if you know nothing about that.

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          Sure, if you’re studying the effects of social media, you’ll have to go on it. That’s not what we’re talking about though. Kids aren’t needing to communicate through social media with other “researchers” at school. Not sure why you’re equating school children to scientist doing actual first hand research, school projects are almost always second hand information, from the research papers, even if they’re about social media.

          But let’s not kid ourselves, 99% of what students used YouTube for was timewasting. I didn’t like it when I was at school but I recognise blocking YouTube was easier than monitoring every kids computers at school to make sure they’re working.

          They’re meant to be using link aggregators like Google Scholar to find papers, not Facebook. Definitely not TikTok.

          And idk what it’s like in your country but the vast majority of research for school here was done at home for homework, where you can watch all the “lectures” you want. Kids just look at dumb shit when they’re at school so they don’t have to work. They also don’t have time to be watching hour long lectures in class. You really don’t need access to social media sites at school.

          Imagine thinking I’m on a high horse because I understand kids like wasting time. Give me one good reason someone would need to use TikTok for school purposes. XD

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            Not sure why you’re insisting on schoolkids when the article is specifically about state university. RTFA.

            They’re meant to be using link aggregators like Google Scholar to find papers, not Facebook. Definitely not TikTok.

            Thank you for clarifying you’re not part of the group you’re speaking for. Next time, preface your replies with “I didn’t read the article and I also have no experience in the subject matter, but I think my opinion is very important because it aligns with the government.” That will make it easier to separate the wheat from the chaff.

            And idk what it’s like in your country

            And apparently neither in yours. Go talk to a(nother) researcher and ask them if they could ever work properly if YouTube or Twitter were banned in their lab computers. Now extend that to reaearchers who specifically have a line of work that depends on TikTok. Then consider you might not know either what you’re talking about or how such work happens in practice. And finally RTFA.

            But if you insist on focusing on school children who are not the subject matter here, I’ll have to accept that your expertise in high school trumps mine, I guess.