In Beijing's Caochang Hutong, insufficient parking has long troubled residents. In response, community volunteers conducted a door-to-door survey about the p...
Am I missing something, or was their solution just to put up a sign of rules?
I generally favour China’s direction but this seems like kind of a silly video if you’re trying to demonstrate the effectiveness of local Chinese democracy.
It’s possible all that was needed was a sign I suppose. I just can’t help but feel a more impactful solution to another problem could have been the focus.
I don’t know what the result was. That’s not the point. The point of the video is to show the process. Even if the solution is mundane, it was arrived at with the active participation and input of the community.
Actually imo the fact that it is so mundane, something that many people would encounter in their day to day life, i think makes it more relatable for the average person.
I like the big feats of infrastructure and so on that China accomplishes, but sometimes it’s refreshing to see the little things.
It says so at the end I believe. But I understand your point. I wasn’t really thinking of it as just a showcase of a process.
I suppose it’s just me coming from a place of some western-brained person looking at this video and going “well this is all just propaganda, nothing changed they just put up a sign.”
I feel it comes across as hokey and fake rather than empowering to the vast majority of less-communally-inclined people in the West.
Excuse me though, I have a lot of very reactionary people in my life, so I’m constantly on the lookout for ways to inform people of how things work in other countries that they just assume are “authoritarian hellholes” in easy to understand ways.
It’s sometimes hard for me to get my brain out of agitprop mode 😅
Yeah, no problem. I understand wanting to see an impressive, flashy result. But this isn’t a propaganda video. As i said, it’s more about showing what grassroots democracy in action looks like.
Democracy is not drawing a cross in a little box on a voting ballot every two to four years (which changes nothing anyway) while having little to no power over the things that affect you in your day to day life, where your landlord and your boss and politicians who only answer to the donor class make all the rules.
Democracy is about getting the people involved in the things that most immediately affect their own lives. Sometimes it’s very small things at the communal level, other times not so small. For instance, when China builds big infrastructure projects, the government almost always works with the local community to find out what best suits everyone’s needs and to hear out their opinions and concerns.
Am I missing something, or was their solution just to put up a sign of rules?
I generally favour China’s direction but this seems like kind of a silly video if you’re trying to demonstrate the effectiveness of local Chinese democracy.
It’s possible all that was needed was a sign I suppose. I just can’t help but feel a more impactful solution to another problem could have been the focus.
I don’t know what the result was. That’s not the point. The point of the video is to show the process. Even if the solution is mundane, it was arrived at with the active participation and input of the community.
Actually imo the fact that it is so mundane, something that many people would encounter in their day to day life, i think makes it more relatable for the average person.
I like the big feats of infrastructure and so on that China accomplishes, but sometimes it’s refreshing to see the little things.
It says so at the end I believe. But I understand your point. I wasn’t really thinking of it as just a showcase of a process.
I suppose it’s just me coming from a place of some western-brained person looking at this video and going “well this is all just propaganda, nothing changed they just put up a sign.”
I feel it comes across as hokey and fake rather than empowering to the vast majority of less-communally-inclined people in the West.
Excuse me though, I have a lot of very reactionary people in my life, so I’m constantly on the lookout for ways to inform people of how things work in other countries that they just assume are “authoritarian hellholes” in easy to understand ways.
It’s sometimes hard for me to get my brain out of agitprop mode 😅
Yeah, no problem. I understand wanting to see an impressive, flashy result. But this isn’t a propaganda video. As i said, it’s more about showing what grassroots democracy in action looks like.
Democracy is not drawing a cross in a little box on a voting ballot every two to four years (which changes nothing anyway) while having little to no power over the things that affect you in your day to day life, where your landlord and your boss and politicians who only answer to the donor class make all the rules.
Democracy is about getting the people involved in the things that most immediately affect their own lives. Sometimes it’s very small things at the communal level, other times not so small. For instance, when China builds big infrastructure projects, the government almost always works with the local community to find out what best suits everyone’s needs and to hear out their opinions and concerns.