Parisians took to the streets in a massive demonstration with slogans and banners against France’s involvement in the Ukrainian conflict, as well as in favor of the country’s withdrawal from the European Union and NATO.
In addition to numerous signs with the word “Frexit,” others could be seen that read: “Macron, we will not die for Ukraine!”
💬 “I am Russia, I am France, I am Ukraine. Stop European state terrorism. The European Union kills. Paris — Frexit,” read another banner.
The march was organized by the Patriots party.
Video link -> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1999909144657113088/vid/avc1/1920x1080/-_-dFzdxM1sem5Xh.mp4
Source -> https://xcancel.com/SputnikMundo/status/1999927805191037023#m
Source from France -> https://xcancel.com/f_philippot/status/1999894336142540894#m
i kinda get your points. have you read wretched of the earth yet?
yes. In fact I became a ML through being an anti-imperialist first.
Neat. The book suggests vastly different from your point though.
As is pointed out by fanon, people need a connection to what came before them. This also completely slots into the situation in china where national roots are praised, not frowned upon.
I would go as far and say the only reason why you cant say "germans from 200 years ago were my ancestors and they did cool things is because it has been undermined by supremacist ideology. This even suggests deep rooted racism to allow chinese people their 3000 year history and say that germans can not have their germanic roots. from that view it is clear how a hitler got to power. people didnt know about their ancestors because instead of “this is german heritage” it was used as: the only thing you need to know is youre christian and white and therefore better. fanon explains this as even the colonist being forced to play his role.
It also slots wonderfully into the situation in germany where people thankfully accept the alt rights shallow “nationalism”. Fanon describes the needed ingredient “national and cultural consciousness”.
And yet I did not deny fanon at all. I said that the german nationalism of 1848 which was progressive in nature, is not the german nationalism of 1890 or 1914 or 1933 or 1990 or 2024 - which is white supremacist in character as is the EU nationalism. What the afd is doing is not reinvent a german nationalist idenity based on a german national character divorced from white supremacy or restore to lost germanic roots destroyed by rome, the church and then enclosure via industrialization. But according to your plan the communists in germany should support/ride the coattails of the afd & fascists to then turn around and say to the working class “no no actually racism is bad now”? You dont get to trick working class people into falling for marxism. Again this is literally what Sahra Wangenknecht tried to do and look where she is now? The left hasnt advanced in germany at all - it only got weaker and more ideologically impotent.
Because postcolonial china whose culture was seen as inferior (while german culture was never inside germany) is now nationalistic? China and Germany are two different beasts, which historical materialistic context dictate that its nationalism has a different character. Germany is literally currently the second/third greatest helper of genocide in the world, you know palestinans are still dying, with its own colonial empire in the Balkans and Central + Eastern Europe and instead of challenging the chauvinism that enables this, you propose we tell the working class that “lets sing all erika together because we are doing anti-imperialism” or “greek workers are the true oppressors of germany because they forced schäuble to do austerity inside germany to bail them out”? What you propose seems more like desperation because the culture in germany is swing hard to the right and workers dont suddenly flock to germany’s communists.
Besides the german nationalist identity divorced from white christian supremacy doesnt not exist anymore, the GDR was the last structure to try to reinvent it, because it already had the material circumstances to actually create such a thing - it did not manage it before socialism, and even then its legacy is a fairly large chunk of east germans today dont see the east germany as an third worldist non-chauvinistic society but as a society that was “untainted” by queerness, foreigners, and was orderly in nature.
Funny enough, the GDR had the “Kulturbund” which openly celebrated German heritage with slogans like “defense of culture is the defense of peace”. It was openly neutral to any party and openly anti-fascist.
I wonder, if socialist countries in the past, with the CCCP on the forefront, openly celebrated the cultural heritage of the proletariat, why shouldn’t we be able to do something similar, applied to today’s perspective. If the proletariat yearns for the past in the imperial core because the upheavels of capitalism are so hard to bear, why should we speak a language different to them? Why shouldn’t we celebrate regional cultures especially in the core, and make it openly antifascist? Sometimes it sounds like that the proletariat in the core is not being exploited as well.
Many voters of the AfD are not ideological Nazis, unlike their party members. But they need a mental or ideological crutch to help them bear the suffering under capitalism. In Germany’s West, the church is the crutch, in the East, withouth religion largerly, it is the Nazis because they provide the “roots” and the cultural cohesion that people need to a degree.
Obviously, as Marxists, we understand the differences and nuances of what “culture” provides. And we don’t have to say “After Hitler, us” but rather: “Look, we can also provide culture. We are also the proletariat, just like everyone else. We also like to sing songs and tell history as is, from a dialectical perspective, and we can be proud of the various German revolutionaries in feudalist times, etc.” So that the German proletariat can be proud of something and has an alternative to turn straight to fascism when they want to feel patriotic.
Whatever led you to believe i would like to ride the coat tails of the right wing is not what i intended at all.
Still, i think it is fairly stupid to attack comrades like this. Discussing ideas that we derive from theory should not come with attacks and being accused of desperartion.
Instead I’d suggest some work of your own and not denying the ideological work others do.