It’s the closest that oligarchs can get to artists’ power to create universes out of thin air
I didn’t catch onto that when I made my comment but this is exactly what Artisanal Intelligence was saying lol. Ever since AI came out artists are trying to find ways to explain how art is not actually something anyone is capable of.
Actually let me detail this a bit more. The essay makes the inverse point: that before AI artists tried to convey how skilled their craft is (to be on an equal basis as specialized workers such as engineers, doctors, etc and demand same compensation, the essay says), and since AI they say anyone can actually do art. But I think since 2023 (when the essay was written) we notice a reversal happening, where more-or-less established artists such as the comic artist here are arguing that to be an artist is something not everyone is capable of, which imo is a way to differentiate themselves from AI image gen that is becoming always better at doing photography and artistic styles. YMMV of course.
Like at face value it comes off as incredibly elitist to say that artists have a power to create universes out of thin air, and non-artists don’t. And I couldn’t even say that they’re saying “everyone can be an artist and create universes out of thin air” because they’re clearly drawing a line between artists and non-artists (in which they consider, at the very least, oligarchs to be).
That’s a good article. I think I had seen it before but not read through it in full.
Like at face value it comes off as incredibly elitist to say that artists have a power to create universes out of thin air, and non-artists don’t. And I couldn’t even say that they’re saying “everyone can be an artist and create universes out of thin air” because they’re clearly drawing a line between artists and non-artists (in which they consider, at the very least, oligarchs to be).
Yeah, it’s interesting how the motives and narrative shift in response to the changing conditions. And I think it is aligned with communist goals and views to insist that art does not arise from “special talent only reserved for a select group” but from a mixture of predispositions and applied process like any other capability (an example of predispositions and their impact being how most people can learn to sing, but a limited number have perfect pitch… this doesn’t mean only those with perfect pitch are “real musicians”, it just means they will have an easier time becoming a skilled musician, all other things being equal, than those who don’t). It reminds me of the idea of bridging the developed gap between “intellectual” and “worker”. The gap between “artist” and “worker” appears to have a similar kind of line drawing going on that will need to be overcome. But artists who are stuck seeing themselves as transcendent beings tapping into something mystical will have a harder time relating to the factory worker whose labor is also being exploited in various ways.
Oooh, that’s neat, bookmarking to look at later. I remember hearing in passing about his interest in cinema on one of the Blowback Podcast episodes on Korea, but I didn’t know that much detail about it.
I didn’t catch onto that when I made my comment but this is exactly what Artisanal Intelligence was saying lol. Ever since AI came out artists are trying to find ways to explain how art is not actually something anyone is capable of.
Actually let me detail this a bit more. The essay makes the inverse point: that before AI artists tried to convey how skilled their craft is (to be on an equal basis as specialized workers such as engineers, doctors, etc and demand same compensation, the essay says), and since AI they say anyone can actually do art. But I think since 2023 (when the essay was written) we notice a reversal happening, where more-or-less established artists such as the comic artist here are arguing that to be an artist is something not everyone is capable of, which imo is a way to differentiate themselves from AI image gen that is becoming always better at doing photography and artistic styles. YMMV of course.
Like at face value it comes off as incredibly elitist to say that artists have a power to create universes out of thin air, and non-artists don’t. And I couldn’t even say that they’re saying “everyone can be an artist and create universes out of thin air” because they’re clearly drawing a line between artists and non-artists (in which they consider, at the very least, oligarchs to be).
That’s a good article. I think I had seen it before but not read through it in full.
Yeah, it’s interesting how the motives and narrative shift in response to the changing conditions. And I think it is aligned with communist goals and views to insist that art does not arise from “special talent only reserved for a select group” but from a mixture of predispositions and applied process like any other capability (an example of predispositions and their impact being how most people can learn to sing, but a limited number have perfect pitch… this doesn’t mean only those with perfect pitch are “real musicians”, it just means they will have an easier time becoming a skilled musician, all other things being equal, than those who don’t). It reminds me of the idea of bridging the developed gap between “intellectual” and “worker”. The gap between “artist” and “worker” appears to have a similar kind of line drawing going on that will need to be overcome. But artists who are stuck seeing themselves as transcendent beings tapping into something mystical will have a harder time relating to the factory worker whose labor is also being exploited in various ways.
Honestly I can understand now why Juche includes the paintbrush lol. Kim Jong Il wrote a book on Cinema – and by book I mean a 500 pages monster. I uploaded it to ProleWiki actually: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/File:On-The-Art-Of-The-Cinema.pdf.
There’s bourgeois art and there’s proletarian art, much like there is bourgeois philosophy and proletarian philosophy.
Oooh, that’s neat, bookmarking to look at later. I remember hearing in passing about his interest in cinema on one of the Blowback Podcast episodes on Korea, but I didn’t know that much detail about it.