Hey all. I’d like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a ‘ceding the issue’ way. Over the past year I’ve been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I’ve internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it’s taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we’ve roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I’ll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we’ll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

lea-bounce

  • Elohimbo
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    6 months ago

    Is it your personal opinion that I should touch grass six feet under?

    Is it your personal opinion this is a “settled issue” despite nothing ever coming of it? No apology to me. Constant gaslighting from admins and mods when brought up, acting in their official capacity as mods receiving complaints.

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      6 months ago

      No and No.

      I apologize to you for the pain, gaslighting, and disrespect. I think that the majority of users and mods here have the same material goal, and agree with you.

      What specific things would you like done? So that I can better understand what actions we can take to move towards resolving this

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        6 months ago

        There’s two issues at play: the sitewide emoji situation/zionist apologia issue & the interpersonal behavior issue.

        The more important one is just add the fucking emoji already, no compromise or half-ass version of it. Ban any users who make the same zionist arguments we have been hearing over it. Self crit about using the term “holocaust emoji” and accusing users of being anti-semites.

        Get Nakoichi off the mod team and stop them from ganging up on other users with Admin/Mod tags active if they’re posting their “personal opinions”. It’s an implicit threat. Have some type of way to internally review reports and complaints of mods/admins and actually de-mod over it. Have serious consequences and accountability. I would also like an apology to myself and other POC users here for letting it get to this point.

        • CARCOSA [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
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          6 months ago

          We are adding the emoji, the whole ass version of it.

          I have sent a message to the entire team to not post personal opinions with an admin/mod account.

          We are discussing what further actions to take, with all the context gathered here and in the empoc mega.

          My apology is in the pinned comment I invite anyone else to make one as well or self-crit.

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            6 months ago

            Then maybe they should refrain entirely from heated discussion in the comms they moderate. Nakoichi used their authority like a wrecking ball to force through whatever take they had, coming in hot on almost every discussion.

            It’s one thing if a normal user does that, it’s another if a mod does. Nobody can stand up to them, their “take” becomes the enforced one