Hey all. I’d like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a ‘ceding the issue’ way. Over the past year I’ve been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I’ve internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it’s taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we’ve roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I’ll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we’ll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

lea-bounce

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    You all turn into such bad faith little shits when you do your hasbara routine

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        I like the users here, the 90% in this thread agreeing with me are all pretty cool.

        I don’t like the admins and mods who repeatedly harass me, smear me, lie about me and who make zionist arguments in bad faith and then pretend they didn’t the next day. You hate me so much you reflexively became zionists to spite me. It’s quite incredible.

        You really want users here to believe that this one person was the chokepoint, the hold up, and you were totally getting around to it but that one person was just busy? Come on it take like 30 seconds for anybody on your team to do if you cared. Instead you banned people and locked threads. Over and over. Dozens of times. Never once have you admitted all these wrongdoings and zionist actions.

        You are actually scapegoating a jew here to try and get out of this. Like you couldn’t make this shit up. Who’s the anti-semite now? Having an inactive mod eat your sins for you cause you can’t own up to your years long zionism and suppression of people who told you this hundreds of times?

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          I don’t hate you, me and other admins have spoken up for you for years from the first zposter to, https://hexbear.net/u/zenzposter360 and https://hexbear.net/u/Spectre_of_Z_poster and https://hexbear.net/u/ZZ_SloppyTop

          I’m sorry you have experienced all of that, and this bad faith engagement/least charitable intrepretation is an exact symptom of the site culture that is vital to change.

          Are you innocent of this?

          Do you think that we want different material outcomes?

          For years people have complained that your messages speak the truth however the delivery is aggressive, you have received years of grace. Could you consider returning some to me as we try to find a solution here?

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            Zenz poster was a lib who I rightfully drove off this site, he didn’t support the SMO or uphold his revolutionary duty. You keep getting all my alts wrong in this thread. It’s quite annoying how many copy cats I have and how I can’t actually tell you which specific ones actually are me - but I only have one active account at a time. I have to keep making new ones because I keep being driven off the site for this exact type of thing. Threats from moderators, being banned for pointing out their unfair practices. The vast majority of people shut up and put their head down or don’t notice.

            I notice and I speak up. I’m the reason you’re fixing this problem after all. I have to do it because nobody else will.

            I was once a normal user, I once would be happy to always be patient and talk in good faith. You’ve lost that with your years of putting up with me being harassed and threatened and gaslighting me about it. I don’t care about your rules anymore. You’ve jokerfied me. Do you understand that feeling? Of being corned and dogpiled so you become da joker baby? That’s what has happened here.

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              I was once a normal user, I once would be happy to always be patient and talk in good faith. You’ve lost that with your years of putting up with me being harassed and threatened and gaslighting me about it. I don’t care about your rules anymore.

              epic tagline material right here, you’re basically the joker, that’s so sick

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              Well I’m sorry that it has come to this, I would say that my experience as an admin has included being cornered and dogpiled

              Am I understanding you correctly when you say that you are a jokerfied user who does not care about site rules that has had and continues to have a multitude of alts spanning years dedicated to driving people off the site who you have ideological differences with?

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              You gotta stop Sephiroth posting for a bit. Save your energy for if the response is shit.

              If it is, everyone can go back to bring angry. But for now, probably calm down and do something else for a bit