Whether there will or will not be another war economy is not the argument here. What I’m trying to explain to you is that calling Russia a war economy is a misuse of the term. A true war economy means subordination of civilian production to military needs. Russia fails this test because there is no civilian sacrifice. Consumer imports have rebounded, unemployment is at record lows, and civilian sectors such as retail and hospitality show growth. Moscow restaurants aren’t turning into shell casing workshops.
There is also no visible economic reorientation, and civilian industries operate near-normal, with no mass conscription of factories or labor. Nor is there any austerity to support the war. The state still funds non-war priorities avoiding wartime measures like rationing or forced savings.
Referring to this as a war economy grossly exaggerates Russia’s mobilization. It’s an economy funding a war, not one restructured for survival-level warfare.
This is literally modern rationing, except capitalist realism style since Governments are no longer powerful enough to keep market-clearance price by volume alone with a globalized market.
Anecdotally, my friend has been running a pretty successful consumer good for Russians, 3d printed war gaming figurines. He expanded like crazy 2020-2023 quit his job and everything had 3 employees somewhere near 30 printers. He’s back working SE for a western company because the sales have been unstable and he didn’t want to fire someone, but he cannot work on it full time anymore.
Ah yes, Kaliningrad, Kamchatka, and Tartarstan, the pillars of Russian economy. It’s incredible how you’re utterly incapable of just admitting you’re wrong.
None of what you said matters in regards to economic reorientation of a war economy. You’re just saying the top line of the economy was good in 2024. Most war economies are boom economies. You are just incapable of staying on topic even on your own terms with your own definitions.
No, I’m saying that the civilian economy had not had to make any meaningful sacrifices to finance the war. I’ve explained this to you repeatedly in several different way, yet you continue to ignore what I actually say. At least I actually provided a definition of what a war economy is, meanwhile you haven’t even bothered doing that. You just declared that Russia is a war economy without any actual justification for that statement. You are just incapable of staying on topic even on your own terms with your own definitions.
Yeah it’s not “civilian sacrifice” when your poorest get priced out of food so that you have to bring back rationing through cash assisted means. Cool. Cool. You’re a self professed Marxist huh?
I literally linked you World Bank and IMF studies showing that standard of living in Russia went up across the board, but here you are back again with personal attacks in lieu of having any actual counterpoint to make being the clown that you are. If you want to see what actual “civilian sacrifice” then look no further than Europe where there is a collapse in the standard of living, and now there’s a talk of massive reorientation of the economy towards military spending. That’s an example of an actual war economy.
Whether there will or will not be another war economy is not the argument here. What I’m trying to explain to you is that calling Russia a war economy is a misuse of the term. A true war economy means subordination of civilian production to military needs. Russia fails this test because there is no civilian sacrifice. Consumer imports have rebounded, unemployment is at record lows, and civilian sectors such as retail and hospitality show growth. Moscow restaurants aren’t turning into shell casing workshops.
There is also no visible economic reorientation, and civilian industries operate near-normal, with no mass conscription of factories or labor. Nor is there any austerity to support the war. The state still funds non-war priorities avoiding wartime measures like rationing or forced savings.
Referring to this as a war economy grossly exaggerates Russia’s mobilization. It’s an economy funding a war, not one restructured for survival-level warfare.
Kaliningrad has literally reintroduced the card system this year. Kamchatka has also done this. Tatarstan is likely next if they don’t just put the kibosh on the whole thing and tell people to deal.
This is literally modern rationing, except capitalist realism style since Governments are no longer powerful enough to keep market-clearance price by volume alone with a globalized market.
Also the CB is dropping rates because the first quarter of this year was a 1.4% vs 5.4% in 2024.
Anecdotally, my friend has been running a pretty successful consumer good for Russians, 3d printed war gaming figurines. He expanded like crazy 2020-2023 quit his job and everything had 3 employees somewhere near 30 printers. He’s back working SE for a western company because the sales have been unstable and he didn’t want to fire someone, but he cannot work on it full time anymore.
Ah yes, Kaliningrad, Kamchatka, and Tartarstan, the pillars of Russian economy. It’s incredible how you’re utterly incapable of just admitting you’re wrong.
It’s pretty silly to use anecdotal arguments when there’s actual statistical data available. The World Bank just reclassified Russia as a high income country. The IMF forecasts that Russian economy is set to grow faster than all the western economies. Those are the facts of the situation.
None of what you said matters in regards to economic reorientation of a war economy. You’re just saying the top line of the economy was good in 2024. Most war economies are boom economies. You are just incapable of staying on topic even on your own terms with your own definitions.
No, I’m saying that the civilian economy had not had to make any meaningful sacrifices to finance the war. I’ve explained this to you repeatedly in several different way, yet you continue to ignore what I actually say. At least I actually provided a definition of what a war economy is, meanwhile you haven’t even bothered doing that. You just declared that Russia is a war economy without any actual justification for that statement. You are just incapable of staying on topic even on your own terms with your own definitions.
Yeah it’s not “civilian sacrifice” when your poorest get priced out of food so that you have to bring back rationing through cash assisted means. Cool. Cool. You’re a self professed Marxist huh?
I literally linked you World Bank and IMF studies showing that standard of living in Russia went up across the board, but here you are back again with personal attacks in lieu of having any actual counterpoint to make being the clown that you are. If you want to see what actual “civilian sacrifice” then look no further than Europe where there is a collapse in the standard of living, and now there’s a talk of massive reorientation of the economy towards military spending. That’s an example of an actual war economy.