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SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago

Slate Liberals - Why you should love a police state that will be used against you

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Slate Liberals - Why you should love a police state that will be used against you

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SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago
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Linky: https://archive.is/bqfe6 and https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/08/why-progressives-should-actually-want-more-police-surveillance.html

The whole article is smuglord and maybe-later-kiddo

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    Lmfao imagine equating communists with capitalists and dictators and saying it doesn’t make a difference, are you a lib?

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      I said CALL them what you like, the CPC always brands itself as communist, while funding capitalist privately owned cooperations

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        Would you support the vast number of state owned enterprises in China?

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          I would, if the people actually had to say something about it, but guess what, they don’t

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            You know this how? Have you been there?

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              Removed by mod

              • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                Know what? I didn’t make any claim, you did.

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                    You believe it’s a one-man dictatorship entirely disconnected from the workers, which IMO requires more proof than the opposite. Believing the reverse is simply easier because of being born an American

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                    I made no such claim, I just asked you why you were so confident you were right, and what evidence you had for your claim, that’s not claiming you’re wrong.

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            pure western chauvinism

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeyXMvdHSjU

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              I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

              • yewtu.be
              • inv.nadeko.net
              • yt.artemislena.eu
              • piped.video
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        They need to make money so they can continue to raise the standard of living in their country. Their capitalists don’t control their society nor do they have any power to influence the government. How else do you get to socialism without doing socialist things?

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          yeah, problem being that you can’t trust capitalists and they’ll just put that money in their own pockets

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            Which is why China has raised the standard of living steadily over the last few decades? I mean where else do you think they got the money to build the cities, infrastructure, power plants, etc.? What actually do you know about China beyond “they have capitalists so they’re bad”?

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              would post China Has Billionaires but I am in despair so I feel this person won’t read it, and I’m so fucking tired of getting an instantaneous dismissive reply that indicates they didn’t even click on the fucking link

              EDIT: I wound up posting it in another part of this thread with a couple other links for them to ignore. I wish there was a way to say “hide replies to this post” so I could avoid seeing a handwaving liberal reply three minutes later

              EDIT2: guess I’m just going through some shit right now sorry

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                It’s such a good essay, I didn’t even need convincing before because the proof was always there but after reading it completely makes sense. Yeah like obviously capitalism bad but the government isn’t run by capitalists like they are in the West, it’s a matter of transitioning (if you read theory you’d know this), and they are indeed on that path. What’s crazy to me is that they’ll probably achieve their goals faster as the planning gets better.

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            capitalists don’t have that much power in the gov. that’s the difference

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        they forced tencent to donate hundreds of millions (billions now) of dollars
        read this https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/

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