Fash grimdark fetishists only like grimdark settings because their conception of grimdarkness is stuffed full of racism, SA, and generally-accepted labeling of ontological evils that absolutely must be genocided to their very last unit. Why I stopped fucking with anything Warhammer, I’m sick of running into chuds and despite hearing how many trans folks are into the IP, I’ve only ever met them in one-off, two-off, or happenstance circumstances, and have been otherwise mass polluted with chuddery.
Since chuds are terminally online secondaries, they’re the ones loudly shitting up discussions. That loser Arch is a prime example. The few times he’s posted actual hobby stuff, it’s unpainted, no conversions or kit bashes, mold lines everywhere, and guns without their barrels drilled. I think he was trying to pivot his channel away from fluff, but he got laughed out of the room.
“Satire” calls are often just irony shielding at this point.
Even for things that were intended to be satire, if enough hogs oink about it and get their kicks (or even their ideas) from the satire, I don’t think it was worth it if a only few smug people “got” the satire in the trade-off.
I think 40k never was satire and is more of a parody. It’s a silly set of rules to give you a narrative reason for why you’re playing against your opponent. Prior to Warhammer, most wargames were historical. You were SOL if you want to play an American Civil War game, but you and your friends only had Union collections. By dipping into parodies of sci-fi, 40k gave you a reason to have Luke Skywalker from Hoth to fight Luke Skywalker from Endor.
Unfortunately, no matter how silly you make something, if reactionaries find their way into your space, they won’t leave. Orks are a good example. In 2nd. Edition, they were parodies of Nazis. Obsession with wonder weapons, might makes right and so the strongest person should be in charge, magical thinking, etc. They had even had German uniforms. But then actual nazis showed up, thought the models were cool, and thus those models were discontinued. That didn’t make the nazis leave, despite statements over orks were making fun of nazi tropes.
Because Brits are a bunch of libs, they didn’t know how to get rid of fascists, so here we are. Games Workshop could completely stamp out nazis by banning fascists from events, issuing boycotts, etc. These milquetoast steps are still too radical ("muh laws of Spain!), so of course nothing gets done.
It’s been delightful. The skies are beautiful on most days, the air is cleaner, and I haven’t had a single conversation I would qualify as “bazinga” with a single person ever since I moved. I haven’t seen a single ZYBERTRUKKK with my own eyes, either.
Small town, farming community. There’s lots of hard work to do, but one must imagine me happy.
Fash grimdark fetishists only like grimdark settings because their conception of grimdarkness is stuffed full of racism, SA, and generally-accepted labeling of ontological evils that absolutely must be genocided to their very last unit. Why I stopped fucking with anything Warhammer, I’m sick of running into chuds and despite hearing how many trans folks are into the IP, I’ve only ever met them in one-off, two-off, or happenstance circumstances, and have been otherwise mass polluted with chuddery.
What you’ve observed above is why I dread ever seeing 40k phrasing in the internet wild, like “heretics” or “xenos” because 99% of the time fascist oinking accompanies it.
Fash grimdark fetishists only like grimdark settings because their conception of grimdarkness is stuffed full of racism, SA, and generally-accepted labeling of ontological evils that absolutely must be genocided to their very last unit. Why I stopped fucking with anything Warhammer, I’m sick of running into chuds and despite hearing how many trans folks are into the IP, I’ve only ever met them in one-off, two-off, or happenstance circumstances, and have been otherwise mass polluted with chuddery.
I play 40k
Da Orkz are fun gitz, but that said, my average experience trying to play with actual 40k players has been kind of goosesteppy most of the time.
If they play Imperial Guard, they’re sus
If they play Space Marines, they’re incredibly sus
If they play anyone else, they’re probably fine
I play Necrons.
I play goth ancap elves
I feel that. I’m just choosy with who I play with. It’s all a friend-of-a-friend kind of thing.
Since chuds are terminally online secondaries, they’re the ones loudly shitting up discussions. That loser Arch is a prime example. The few times he’s posted actual hobby stuff, it’s unpainted, no conversions or kit bashes, mold lines everywhere, and guns without their barrels drilled. I think he was trying to pivot his channel away from fluff, but he got laughed out of the room.
Something I’ve noticed is if you’re not an unbelievable piece of shit, people will come and watch you do technically mediocre art stuff
That’s what always gets me about Warhammer 40K.
“No, it’s not fascist, it’s a satire of fascism!”
“How does it satirize fascism?”
“By having it be objectively correct within the game’s setting and making the all-male perpetually adolescent beefy killing machines the good guys.”
“Satire” calls are often just irony shielding at this point.
Even for things that were intended to be satire, if enough hogs oink about it and get their kicks (or even their ideas) from the satire, I don’t think it was worth it if a only few smug people “got” the satire in the trade-off.
I think 40k never was satire and is more of a parody. It’s a silly set of rules to give you a narrative reason for why you’re playing against your opponent. Prior to Warhammer, most wargames were historical. You were SOL if you want to play an American Civil War game, but you and your friends only had Union collections. By dipping into parodies of sci-fi, 40k gave you a reason to have Luke Skywalker from Hoth to fight Luke Skywalker from Endor.
Unfortunately, no matter how silly you make something, if reactionaries find their way into your space, they won’t leave. Orks are a good example. In 2nd. Edition, they were parodies of Nazis. Obsession with wonder weapons, might makes right and so the strongest person should be in charge, magical thinking, etc. They had even had German uniforms. But then actual nazis showed up, thought the models were cool, and thus those models were discontinued. That didn’t make the nazis leave, despite statements over orks were making fun of nazi tropes.
Because Brits are a bunch of libs, they didn’t know how to get rid of fascists, so here we are. Games Workshop could completely stamp out nazis by banning fascists from events, issuing boycotts, etc. These milquetoast steps are still too radical ("muh laws of Spain!), so of course nothing gets done.
Hex-and-counter wargamers stay winning
Sometimes, the racism is merely “historically accurate” absence. “Historically accurate,” mind, in fictional lands with made up places in them.
Square-Enix.
Also, welcome back, Ulysses; how was your time off-grid?
“Westeros” and the totally “historically accurate” Polishness of the Witcherino except for the parts where it’s not also come to mind.
It’s been delightful. The skies are beautiful on most days, the air is cleaner, and I haven’t had a single conversation I would qualify as “bazinga” with a single person ever since I moved. I haven’t seen a single ZYBERTRUKKK with my own eyes, either.
Small town, farming community. There’s lots of hard work to do, but one must imagine me happy.
Get into Malifaux. You can literally run an Abolitionist boxer
Does it feature some sort of field of view mechanics like Kill Team, where sight lines aren’t effectively a given?
Uh, I don’t think so. I mostly build the models and make lists. Finding the time to play has been hard. 😅
Oh based, I def need to research this one
What you’ve observed above is why I dread ever seeing 40k phrasing in the internet wild, like “heretics” or “xenos” because 99% of the time fascist oinking accompanies it.