Both Ukraine and Palestine are fighting against an invading force. We can unanimously agree that Palestinians have have been illegally occupied in an open air prison/concentration camp for 75 years. And we seem to agree that Palestine cannot be a perfect victim and it is reasonable that they seek support in Hamas instead of their Israeli oppressors.

Now why can’t the same logic be applied to Ukraine? There is absolutely a nazi problem in Ukraine. A nazi problem that needs to be wiped out. But Russia isnt trying to denazify Ukraine, they’re trying to maintain borders and resist NATO. But while doing so they are indiscriminately killing civilians and are the aggressors.

Personally, I believe in what Norman Finkelstein has to say about Hezbollah and the red army. Both are not perfect, but I don’t care about their politics. I care that they are a resisting force and believe a country should have the right to self determination.

So how are these situations diametrically opposed that you seem to be hostile towards Ukraine but supportive of Palestine?

I don’t mean to come off as shaming or judgemental. I genuinely would like to hear your perspective.

Edit: I appreciate all of the thoughtful and patient responses. Even though I might not respond to everything here I am reading all of it. I was operating under a lack of information, which I’ve never seen any Western media source report on. Ever since leaving reddit, hexbear has been a great source of alternative perspectives and context. It’s opened my eyes to a lot of how I’ve been misled by papers that I’ve trusted.

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    @Sitcom@monyet.cc in addition, it’s important to note that the coup in 2014 was planned and funded by the US government, and that both the integration of Crimea into the Russian Federation (by overwhelming popular vote) and the creation of the DPR and LPR was a reaction to this

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      To be even more precise, the coup regime repealed the Kolesnychenko-Kivalov language law, a law that granted the status of regional languages for Russian and other minority languages in Ukraine, literally on the first day they took power (23 February 2014).

      Everyone knows this means ethnic cleansing when a new government repealed laws that protect minority rights. Donbass separatists rose up as a response to this.