The fact that Joe was either completely hand-held into his absolutely frothingly (Apple thinks this isn’t a word- fuck you) insane statements after Hasmas’ actions or legitimately is just that insane, it doesn’t really matter at this point. Those statements, even in a hypothetical world where Israel didn’t immediately blow up thousands of civilians (and still shows no sign of stopping or slowing), should cause the immediate reaction of disqualification from his party. At the absolute fucking least.
He did a Bush/Cheney circa 2003. Literally listen to ol’ Rummy (rot in piss) or Rice or, well, Cheney himself and they’re all talking like Biden did the other week. Everybody seems to give the default acknowledgment now that “Iraq was a mistake” (they don’t actually believe it, but they do say it) and yet they’re sitting here while Israel is engaging in its own Iraq and somehow lying to continue it in even more stupid and obvious ways that Rumsfeld and Powell did. It’s a complete clownshow over there, and that’s saying something compared to the Bush admin.
Now I know the chances of even opportunistic dems or republicans actually fully condemning Biden and demanding he not run for reelection in light of SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE is nearly zero, but, it’s still… “important”… or something to at least have people like Tlaib out there condemning Israel’s actions and also condemning the words and actions of Israel’s number one fan, best bud, backer, the one who allows Israel to do Israel shit… the US.
There’s going to be many “reasons” in coming decades for the US to send aid or, holy fuck hopefully not, actual troops. It’s all part of the declining American empire that people like 900 year old Joe thinks can still fight China and the USSR which he thinks is still around. It can’t, and that’s a good thing for anyone who is on the side of anti-imperialism. And all we can do is put constant pressure on our shithole genocidal government to not send aid, or troops, or even speak words of support for our equally genocide-loving allies like Israel, basically the entire EU, etc. This is easy for now… just wait until people like Joe actually realize it’s all over and it doesn’t matter how much they kick and scream. Might not be long before an Israeli PM is on TV saying he supports bombing entire cities in the US for being traitors, who knows.
The supremely naive part of me hopes we send troops because Israel is unfortunately a cutout of Europe circa 1930’s and our soldiers, as bad as they are, would still be having to gun down Palestinians who are also Christian like themselves, sending back stories about just how awful Israel really is…but what am I saying? Our troops would do it anyway, and even conscientious (wow, I spelt that right the first time) objectors would still do their jobs and still send back the stories, but literally nothing would change; we’d only hear 20 years from now about how maybe supporting Israel during that specific incident had been a mistake.
“This shoot and cry boot movie doesn’t condone atrocities, but nothing could be done about chuds citing the shoot and cry boot movie for why they enlisted to commit atrocities. They would have been inspired by another shoot and cry boot movie so the answer is more shoot and cry boot movies if I might enjoy them too.”
Yeah the idea that soldiers wouldn’t do as ordered isn’t even worth entertaining, no offense or whatever (you already agree with me anyway based on what you typed after). That pretty much goes for all soldiers.
Not trying to be cynical or whatever, but militaries are generally composed of young, mostly men, and ones who had at least some notion of nationalism enough to agree to join, especially, obviously, in non-conscription militaries like the US. So, my point is, you give basically any nationalistic minded young man a gun or put in charge of some sort of murder machine and tell them “that’s the bad guy. Go do the thing.” And they see there have been effectively no consequences for decades for others just wantonly murdering… it’s a recipe for “yeah, they’re gonna murder.”
That’s why it’s important to do whatever we can to keep the ghouls in the media and in Washington from ever putting them in the position to do the murdering. And also keep weapons from going over there. Obviously we have limited, nearly zero, say in the process, but I think people are kind of slowly moving towards “stop killing people” since it’s all sort of out in the open now days.
The fact that Joe was either completely hand-held into his absolutely frothingly (Apple thinks this isn’t a word- fuck you) insane statements after Hasmas’ actions or legitimately is just that insane, it doesn’t really matter at this point. Those statements, even in a hypothetical world where Israel didn’t immediately blow up thousands of civilians (and still shows no sign of stopping or slowing), should cause the immediate reaction of disqualification from his party. At the absolute fucking least.
He did a Bush/Cheney circa 2003. Literally listen to ol’ Rummy (rot in piss) or Rice or, well, Cheney himself and they’re all talking like Biden did the other week. Everybody seems to give the default acknowledgment now that “Iraq was a mistake” (they don’t actually believe it, but they do say it) and yet they’re sitting here while Israel is engaging in its own Iraq and somehow lying to continue it in even more stupid and obvious ways that Rumsfeld and Powell did. It’s a complete clownshow over there, and that’s saying something compared to the Bush admin.
Now I know the chances of even opportunistic dems or republicans actually fully condemning Biden and demanding he not run for reelection in light of SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE is nearly zero, but, it’s still… “important”… or something to at least have people like Tlaib out there condemning Israel’s actions and also condemning the words and actions of Israel’s number one fan, best bud, backer, the one who allows Israel to do Israel shit… the US.
There’s going to be many “reasons” in coming decades for the US to send aid or, holy fuck hopefully not, actual troops. It’s all part of the declining American empire that people like 900 year old Joe thinks can still fight China and the USSR which he thinks is still around. It can’t, and that’s a good thing for anyone who is on the side of anti-imperialism. And all we can do is put constant pressure on our shithole genocidal government to not send aid, or troops, or even speak words of support for our equally genocide-loving allies like Israel, basically the entire EU, etc. This is easy for now… just wait until people like Joe actually realize it’s all over and it doesn’t matter how much they kick and scream. Might not be long before an Israeli PM is on TV saying he supports bombing entire cities in the US for being traitors, who knows.
The supremely naive part of me hopes we send troops because Israel is unfortunately a cutout of Europe circa 1930’s and our soldiers, as bad as they are, would still be having to gun down Palestinians who are also Christian like themselves, sending back stories about just how awful Israel really is…but what am I saying? Our troops would do it anyway, and even conscientious (wow, I spelt that right the first time) objectors would still do their jobs and still send back the stories, but literally nothing would change; we’d only hear 20 years from now about how maybe supporting Israel during that specific incident had been a mistake.
You’d get movies 10 years down the line about how Private Dick was very sad when came the time to gun down children
“This shoot and cry boot movie doesn’t condone atrocities, but nothing could be done about chuds citing the shoot and cry boot movie for why they enlisted to commit atrocities. They would have been inspired by another shoot and cry boot movie so the answer is more shoot and cry boot movies if I might enjoy them too.”
Yeah the idea that soldiers wouldn’t do as ordered isn’t even worth entertaining, no offense or whatever (you already agree with me anyway based on what you typed after). That pretty much goes for all soldiers.
Not trying to be cynical or whatever, but militaries are generally composed of young, mostly men, and ones who had at least some notion of nationalism enough to agree to join, especially, obviously, in non-conscription militaries like the US. So, my point is, you give basically any nationalistic minded young man a gun or put in charge of some sort of murder machine and tell them “that’s the bad guy. Go do the thing.” And they see there have been effectively no consequences for decades for others just wantonly murdering… it’s a recipe for “yeah, they’re gonna murder.”
That’s why it’s important to do whatever we can to keep the ghouls in the media and in Washington from ever putting them in the position to do the murdering. And also keep weapons from going over there. Obviously we have limited, nearly zero, say in the process, but I think people are kind of slowly moving towards “stop killing people” since it’s all sort of out in the open now days.