seems like the ‘safe’ public opinion is ‘we stand behind israel’ and the left opinion is palestinian support

i don’t live there i don’t have any particular interest or fascination with the region i don’t understand any of this pls don’t yell at me

  • diegeticscream[all]🔻
    23·
    9 months ago

    Are you claiming the US was justified in its atomic bombing of hiroshima? By your given criteria, it also falls under armed struggle.

    I do consider it a war crime, I used it as an example because that’s not common in Western spaces.

    I’ll be happy to concede to you that the attack on the music festival was reprehensible, if you can concede that the Palestinian attacks on military installations were appropriate and called for.

    • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
      41·
      9 months ago

      Are you, like… stupid?

      My stance from the beginning was always that palestinian attacks on israeli military installations is justified. Theyre being invaded. The problem is hamas commited a war crime that gave israel the justification to begin unquestioned and uncovered genocide.

      Could you get your head out of your ass and stop trying to justify war crimes in your slobbering hunger to see the shadow of a drop of isreali blood? Youre continuing hamas’s work of making israel look good, and palestine doesnt need more enemies.

      You called a music festival a non neutral event, for fucks sake. Are you trying to demonize palestine? Is that your goal?

      • diegeticscream[all]🔻
        33·
        9 months ago

        Are you, like… stupid?

        A little, yeah.

        My stance from the beginning was always that palestinian attacks on israeli military installations is justified. Theyre being invaded. The problem is hamas commited a war crime that gave israel the justification to begin unquestioned and uncovered genocide.

        I didn’t see your support for Hamas’ actions in this thread, sorry if I missed it.

        The zionist entity is constantly commiting war crimes. I don’t think it needs an excuse.

        Could you get your head out of your ass and stop trying to justify war crimes in your slobbering hunger to see the shadow of a drop of isreali blood? Youre continuing hamas’s work of making israel look good, and palestine doesnt need more enemies.

        I don’t think the zionists constantly bombing children makes them look good.

        You called a music festival a non neutral event, for fucks sake.

        I don’t agree that it was a neutral event, but I’m happy to concede it as wrong for the sake of the argument here.

        • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
          32·
          9 months ago

          Oh gross are you just an antisemite?

          Israel as a nation is the problem, not jews bud. Get a life

          People like you are the reason israel is going to win, and I weep for your palestinian victims

          • diegeticscream[all]🔻
            33·
            9 months ago

            Oh gross are you just an antisemite?

            No, I am not. I have not said anything antisemitic, and will not.

            Israel as a nation is the problem, not jews bud. Get a life.

            I agree that settler-colonialism, as represented by Zionism, is the problem. Judaism is not synonymous with the zionist project.

            I’m happy to see that we’ve wound down your arguments to where you’re grasping at straws and making up things to argue against.

            People like you are the reason israel is going to win,

            We’ll see.

            • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
              31·
              9 months ago

              Zionist has been an antisemetic buzz word for almost a century, bud, but it does explain why you were so happy to see the music festival victims.

              And why you seem so keen on hamas, despite their recent announcements of goals which include a racial jewish clensing.

              Sucks that you are using palestine as an excuse for your garbage. Normal folk are upset at civilian death.

              • VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.socialEnglish
                21·
                9 months ago

                I agree with most of what you’ve said, but just throwing in my 2 cents that I’ve never heard Zionist as an antisemitic buzz word, I’ve only ever understood it to as a way to differentiate Jews who support the Israeli and it’s settler colonialism project, and those who don’t. Maybe antisemitic use it, but I don’t think it’s a common dog whistle (like globalist is, for example).