u/explorerofbells - originally from r/GenZhou
Hey comrades,
I’m a part of a discord server called Vegan Theory Club that’s run by mix of leftist tendencies. It’s a theory club that’s explicitly leftist and vegan, but we talk about more than just the book of the month.
We just started reading Eternal Treblinka - Our Treatment of Animals and the Holocaust by Charles Patterson, which we voted for. (Our last book was Kapital.) Right now is the perfect time to join!
We’d love to have you!
u/JDSweetBeat - originally from r/GenZhouStrict yes/no type questions are trash, and are usually designed with the express purpose of making the respondee(s) look uneducated. It’s a rhetorical tactic I’ve noticed most often (but not exclusively) used by right-wingers and people with reactionary tendencies.
Lab grown meat is better than meat meat. It’s less cruel. Does lab grown meat require animal exploitation? To an extent, yes. You have to harvest the original stem cells from an actual animal. Most companies that do this harvest fetal stem cells periodically (because stem cells can divide into different types of cell). They get these fetal stem cells by impregnating female cows, aborting the resulting fetuses, and collecting the fetus’ stem cells. Obviously this is better than mass death factories that produce meat conventionally, but it’s safe to say that we, as a society, could do better.
Additionally, meat in any substantive quantity is unhealthy (see the Adventist studies for reference) and the mass production of meat for consumption has overarching social considerations, as a result, that need to be carefully weighed going forward.