u/explorerofbells - originally from r/GenZhou
Hey comrades,
I’m a part of a discord server called Vegan Theory Club that’s run by mix of leftist tendencies. It’s a theory club that’s explicitly leftist and vegan, but we talk about more than just the book of the month.
We just started reading Eternal Treblinka - Our Treatment of Animals and the Holocaust by Charles Patterson, which we voted for. (Our last book was Kapital.) Right now is the perfect time to join!
We’d love to have you!
u/calciumpotass - originally from r/GenZhou
Don’t worry none of it addresses artificial meat
u/warender99 - originally from r/GenZhou
I think the point the are trying to make can be justly summed with the following quote from the literature provided
It isn’t so much that artificially grown meat could not replace meat, but rather that as a part of our struggle for liberation we must logically include Animals. Indeed to think about it from a moralism perspective I now understand is to think of it from the wrong angle entirely. It is easy to mistake all vegans/animal liberation activists as adhering to idealist tendencies. The literature does a pretty good job distinguishing itself from this and providing a historical materialist perspective on the matter.
Everything we do must be grounded in reality, lest we become dogmatic, idealist fools. It is no lie that the meat industry is responsible for massive damage to the earth. It’s abolition therefore is necessary for the preservation of our home planet. Artificially grown meat could not hope to replace it in the short or even medium term. There is no argument within the paper that necessitates the utter abandonment of that possibility, but I do think it is easy to understand the social change of vegan diets is clearly the better, more feasible solution. Alternatives to meat therefore would not likely by pursued by a wholly vegan society. That is to say if I woke up in the morning and the whole world was a United socialist project, it would necessarily be an important task of that project to convert the existing food industry into a, like the quote says, “ecologically sustainable, vegan, and socially planned” one.
u/calciumpotass - originally from r/GenZhou
I appreciate that you’re trying to take that lazy argument in good-faith. But honestly, if lab-grown meat has no hope to replace the cattle industry in the short or medium term, veganism has no hope of converting the majority of the population for the foreseeable future