• jackalope@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    2 years ago

    sadly, I’ve seen too much leftist organizing dysfunction to think that haha. Leftists are their own worst enemies. And I don’t just mean fights between factions. I mean just… holy shit sometimes people are just so disorganized.

    • pingveno@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 years ago

      I remember when our local Occupy group decided to initially operate on a consensus basis. Ever tried to operate 100+ people on a consensus basis? No matter what was proposed, someone didn’t like it and wouldn’t budge. They eventually fell to a mix of infighting and the police clearing out the park they were occupying (which had turned to a mud bath in the mean time).

            • jackalope@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 years ago

              I mean “anarchism” is an extremely broad label, to the point of almost being as meaningless as calling oneself a leftist or marxist. A lot of anarchists are pro-direct-democracy, which isn’t consensus based. A specific example is the “inclusive democracy” movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusive_Democracy

              We have to remember, these labels are all abstractions, they aren’t real concrete relations. They’re just ways that humans divide up and name the world for ease of use.

                • jackalope@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  2 years ago

                  Basically it’s a framework that defines 4 spheres of democracy: politics, economic, social, and ecological.

                  Or roughly speaking, democracy in government, democracy at work, democracy in the home, and democracy in relation to the natural environment.