worlds first socialist experiment
You can’t think if any others? Not one?
Everything else you said I addressed in my statement. Refer back to it.
worlds first socialist experiment
You can’t think if any others? Not one?
Everything else you said I addressed in my statement. Refer back to it.
Thats why you dont stare, dear.
But… But… How else will I know I’m in an aggressively soulless surrealist hellscape!?
Mostly annoyed at alignment over ideals or pragmatism and having the same three arguments a million times. Not interested in elaborating; not the time.
I’m saying if you can’t see their fuckups, if you buy all the cope, you aren’t really learning much from their successes either, and this is just masturbating to an idealized past.
There are socialist regimes, even centralized ones close to your ideology, that have not failed, that still exist, that have a better record of being on the right side of history. I dont have a ton of interest arguing the minutiae of a shitty dead empire that could have been really really fucking cool. Why the fuck do any of you never talk about them?
Ghost requires a soul. It will be an llm based on him running on a rack of gpu’s on the back of a very shiny Boston dynamics robot, and it will not endorse, because it will be the Democratic nominee. His running mate will be nick Fuentes, or a similar llm based on Otto von bismarck and Reinhardt heidrich, to signal both branches of the now dividing right that they’re heard and will have a voice in this new administration. Everybody (who counted as human when they were alive) gets a voice here.
Did you just use the failure if the USSR via self-rat-fucking to justify the imperialism of the USSR? I get the names mixed up sometimes, so genuine question.
Those excel nerds do not fuck around when it comes to ergonomics.
Omg! You too!? It is fate! We are now best friends forever!
They were fucking socialists. They came in with paratroopers and tanks to kill socialists. It was not a lib revolution, I dont have a problem with dead CIA puppet libs, this was socialists who wanted autonomy. This is why a lot of anarchists can’t stand tankies.
Edit: List the things the USSR did wrong. It existed for seventy years and covered eleven time zones, so there’s no way, even if they were the best ever, that its gonna be a short list. If it is a short list, consider that you might be rationalizing and covering up and lying to cover the fuckups of an empire thats been dead probably longer than you’ve been alive, and most of the pieces have been to war with other pieces since. Why? Its dead and gone, you sound like how libs sound after throwing an election. Let’s do a post mortem so we can do better next time, let’s dig deep into the fuckups and fucking learn from fucking history. There were cool parts too! And let’s learn from those too! But you can’t take either in isolation, that’s not honest, and its not useful.
what question to ask
And how/where to ask it, now that web search is dead. Good luck figuring shit out!
This was a loooooooong time ago, and I was reading or listening to basically anything I could get my hands on, but i was already definitely an anarchist and vaguely a communist, had been the former since single digit years and the latter since at least age 16 or so. Uh, I think the ‘revolutions’ podcast had a non-objectionable thing on the Russian revolution, but idr if it covers this much.
I’ve come across podcasts that cover bits of it more recently, if you want me to DM links. No I didn’t have mentors. Not political anyway. I had some punk friends but they weren’t into history or theory. Mostly got radicalized by experience being varying degrees of alone; was lonely and alienating as fuck. I’d rather not get more personal publicly on this account.
If youre genuinely curious, I can dig some stuff up for you, but I’m not sure it will be what I read 10+ years ago. I have some interesting theory that explains what I specifically think, but I was already firmly in the ‘authority is not okay’ and ‘private property is just feudalism with extra gaslighting’ camps.
As an anarchist, how it went for me:
Read history. Have intimate relationships with at least two tankies (all my relationships end badly, so its a sure way to build a grudge).
Marx was cool though (sometimes), and I’ve got some ml comrades who are doing pretty much the right thing, and most importantly: I’d rather be murdered by my hot problematic ex in a few years than some shitty nazi tomorrow. So if there are firing squads for the anarchists, my last wish is that one of my exes do mine, please.
If I get my way, you guys can run the trains.
If none of this makes sense, read some less myopic history. The USSR was unquestionably better than the czarist regime, by a lot, and it was the worst most reactionary group of communists kind of giving communism a bad name by being generally shitty about being bare minimum decent¹. Also the bolsheviks killing all the other communists, not just the anarchists. Yes they moved Russia, technologically, farther in their short life than basically any civilization in history, but they did it by shitting on the core ideas of communism for some peripheral crap Marx said was ‘probably a thing you need sometjing like to get there, I think’. There’s an opportunity cost thing, and I’ll give them more understanding, but they do not get a full pass for bad behavior just because they were communist. What’s the incident where the term ‘tankie’ was born? Remember that one?
Yes they were better than the other world powers, but by as little as they could get away with while still calling themselves communist, like they relished the misery, fetishized the sacrifices, and frequently missed the god damn point. They ruled for a people they weren’t willing to trust or like, a lesson robespierre had already fucking taught us, and that poisoned the idea of communism, or at least the word, for a lot of people. Thats why I still have to call myself an anarchist instead of an anarcho-communist if I want to turn libs.
¹which, yes, set the entire rest of the world against them. They had a few teeeensy difficulties. They still used it as a license to be otherwise just as awful as everyone else, and handled their problems in utterly deplorable ways.
how to convince a liberal people need to eat food or they’ll die
Lock it in a box without food with another lib who’s already been in the box for a week. Let it out when the first one dies. Not sure anything else will work.
Their entire horizon of action is begging daddy and punishment. Cruelty squad was a documentary.
Genuinely fucking yes, but its not a strong claim.
They think by supporting the fasch they’re part of the ingroup the law serves, not the outgroup criminals the law punishes.
Oh my god its fukuyama fanfic all the way down. That fucker wrote maybe the only book with more of it than the bible.
And likes them.
You’re completely missing the point of what I said for the sake of defensiveness, and its too late in the day for me to rewrite it better. Your points are all broadly addressed in whar youre replying to. Re-read what I already wrote or dont; youre not getting better out of me right now.