aren’t not dependent on each other

So, they are dependent on each other.

In the third paragraph you mentioned “tux” but I’m guessing that you meant “tmux”. Just a clarification for readers not familiar with it and want to look it up.

I don’t usually run, but when I do, I run a mild/moderate fever.

True story, about 20-25 years ago, a radio station in my home town was playing ads for some new local business doing web design.

After hearing the ad on my drive to work for the umpteen billionth time I finally got curious and went to check out their own website (I they’re charging people to build websites, they’re own website must be a pretty awesome demonstration of their skills, right?)

The website looked like absolute garbage and, upon viewing the source, the meta tags clearly betrayed the fact that it was created in Word.

I can only imagine how much money they were paying to run those ads. I even considered the possibility I was being pranked somehow.

I seem to have isolated the problem to using a link to the website on the phone’s home screen (created from FF using the “Add to Home screen” option in the three dots menu next to the address bar.

Starting that way seems to give any session cookies a very short life and they disappear quickly (logging me out). I created a bookmark within FF and have been using that and haven’t been logged out since.

In fact, if I use the home screen link to programming.dev, FF doesn’t think I’m logged in, but then if I use the bookmark from within that same instance of FF, it instantly sees me as already logged in.

Very strange.

The best time to have frozen your credit reports at all three agencies was many many years ago. The second best time is right now. Not tomorrow. Now.

I think I figured out how to reproduce it really quick.

1. Log in to Lemmy on Firefox
2. Switch to a different app
3. Switch back to Firefox
4. Reload the page.

Poof! I’m out. I repeated the test multiple times to confirm it’s consistent. Probably actually getting kicked out on step 2. It’s like FF decides to expire the Lemmy cookies when the app loses focus.

Armed with that info, I retested two alternate front ends on programming.dev (a. & t.) and default front end on lemmy.world and default front end on programming.drv with Brave. I was previously getting logged out on lemmy.world, but not now (maybe they updated something? Or my test is still flawed.). So, with these steps I can only reproduce it on programming.dev with the default front end on Firefox.

Update: Haven’t used my lemmy.world account in a while, so thought I’d test this out over there. Same thing happened after several minutes. Then I tried on Mastodon.world for a while and it seems to work fine. I’ll try giving the alternate front end another round of testing later today.

Addendum: Can’t reproduce the problem on t.programming.dev today, and couldn’t seem to on a.programming.dev yesterday, so it seems to be specific to the default Lemmy front end.

I have no extensions installed on my mobile Firefox. Maybe I should install some. 🤣

129.0 (Build #2016035991), hg-2d113ed75bf0+ GV: 129.0-20240801122119 AS: 129.0

Ok, so pretty certain this is specific to my phone.

Browsed the recommended alternate front end for as long as I could stand it. Didn’t get logged out, but I may have just not waited long enough.

Back on normal frontend, I deleted all browsing data (cookies, etc), logged back in and then got kicked out within a few minutes.

Rebooting the phone now. 🤞

Update: Nope, still getting booted within a few minutes. Beyond just using a different browser, I’m out of ideas, so I’ll try that for a bit. 🤷

Update 2: Doesn’t seem to be happening in Brave. So currently, only in FF, only on my phone, clearing cookies and rebooting did not help.

I’m open to any more ideas.

Well, was a good idea, but alas, I deleted all browsing data (cookies, tabs, the whole shebang), logged back in and was kicked out within a few minutes.

Good idea. Thanks.

Seems tied to my phone. Not happening on the desktop. Will try the alternate front end next. Then maybe reboot. 🤣

Not that I can think of. This just started this morning, and I haven’t done or installed anything recently that might cause this. If it’s only happening to me though…

No, just good old fashioned Firefox. I’ve tried several clients and didn’t really like any of them compared to the normal web interface. 🤷

This would make an excellent short film. The fire axes scene would be epic.

They want to use the public space for that.

We still don’t seem to be syncing with lemmy.world.

Thank you! I’m glad it was a relatively easy fix.