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  • krayj@lemmy.worldtoLemmy.World Announcements@lemmy.worldRemoval of piracy communities
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    11 months ago

    True. And yet Cloudflare has to maintain its own army of lawyers to defend the constant barrage of lawsuits against Cloudflare claiming that they are facilitating copyright infringement. The average salary for 'Associate Legal Counsel" at companies like Cloudflare is about US $303,400. (source is Cloudflare themselves: https://www.salary.com/research/salary/employer/cloudflare-inc/associate-legal-counsel-salary )…and that’s just one of many. They are literally paying MILLIONS of US Dollars a year to defend against that. You think the admins for Lemmy.World have that kind of pocket change?

    Also, “caches” are temporary in nature and are different from permanent local copies (which is the model employed by lemmy). There is a technical difference, and even with that technical difference, Cloudflare still gets sued all the time for it.


  • It depends on the jurisdiction. In the United States, we have the DMCA which has been weaponized by content creators and publishers, but we also have a “safe harbors” provision to the DMCA that is supposed to protect online service providers from being liable for copyright infringement based on the actions of their users - as long as they meet certain provisions and restrictions and perform certain duties and dilligence. And yet even with that in place, it does not stop content providers from suing service providers and forcing those service providers to incur the pain and expense of mounting a legal defense.

    I am pretty sure that Lemmy.world admin team are European and that the instance is hosted somewhere in Europe, so they would have their own jurisdictional laws to follow.

    TL/DR: even if a service provider is technically protected from the actions of their users it is still subject to provisions and conditions, and that still doesn’t stop them from being sued and having to mount a defense. Some people just don’t feel the hassle of all that justifies the whatever benefits they’d gain from fighting that fight.

    Certainly you’ve heard of ‘The Pirate Bay’, who’s ‘users’ famously used their platform to share copyrighted materials…the founders of The Pirate Bay were arrested, tried, and convicted, and were forced to serve jail time. Turns out the “but it was our user’s doing it” defense wasn’t as reliable as everyone here seems to be suggesting.


  • You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how federation works and either don’t know or don’t realize that content is replicated across instances that are federated with each other by virtue of users subscribing to it.

    If you are a lemmy.world user subscribed to a piracy community on another instance, then that content is replicated and hosted locally on lemmy.world also. You’ve never noticed how you can access content that originated on a foreign federated instance and still be able to access that content when the federated instance is down? That content physically resided on the lemmy.world instance until it was blocked.


  • This doesn’t invalidate my earlier statement that citizens are still subject to city ordinances.

    There are around 20,000 cities and municipalities in the United States, most of them have public-nudity/indecent-exposure laws.

    You successfully made the point that the legality of city ordinances can be challenged in higher courts (and even sometimes overturned) but the reality is that most people have neither the funding nor the time nor the expertise to take that up…which means ultimately you’re still subject to a city/municipality ordinances as well as state and federal.

    In 2017, Tagami v City of Chicago, the US Court of appeals for 7th Circuit ruled 2-1 that the city’s public nudity ordinance did not violate the complainant’s rights and upheld the lower court decisions (which meant that City of Chicago’s ordinance remained intact and validated as enforceable by the city).

    At the end of the day, yes you do have to be cognizant of the ordinances/codes of the city in question and cannot rely on State/Federal law alone.





  • You are obviously speaking from the privilege of someone not only familiar with how lemmy works, and who understands the difference and pros/cons of joining a large vs small instance and can probably even name a bunch, but also someone who knows of obscure tools and github repos that host those tools. What prevents users from switching using that obscure tool you referenced is that most users never heard of it and didn’t know it even existed. You are using the argument that new and casual users should have god-level knowledge and understanding…which is exactly the point I’m trying to argue against. Casual and new users don’t know what they don’t know. They don’t know what other communities are out there and they don’t know that when they view “all” that they aren’t seeing them. Think about this from the perspective of someone who doesn’t know what you know.

    Regarding your argument about NSFW and foreign language search results…that already happens now when users of your instance have subscribed to those things. You can’t argue that it would become a problem when it’s already happening right now. If it really was the problem that you think it is, then the solution would be to mimic what every other search tool figured out three decades ago and put an option to exclude nsfw results when viewing/searching “all” communities. It’s already possible for communities to flag themselves as NSFW, and it’s already possible for communities to designate their community language setting, it would make sense that those options be presented to users for filtering. These filtering options are things we need now regardless of whether search results come from actual-all or subset-all. I’m just suggesting that “all” mean “actual all”.

    But, just for fun, let’s steelman your claim that it would be technologically infeasible for “all” to be “all fediverse” as opposed to a subset of just what this server’s users subscribe to (it’s absolutely not technologically infeasible, but lets pretend it is) - even it that scenario, they should at least change up the UI for the communities page to make it clear that when the user selects “all” that they aren’t really getting all - it should be made clear what the user is actually getting, which is “local, plus foreign content that is subscribed to locally”. It simply is not truly “all”, so presenting it as “all” is only leading to more confusion about what the users are seeing.



  • It’s a massive usability issue and a massive content discovery issue, imo.

    For lemmy users who got lucky and had their first lemmy experience on a top 5 instance where a lot of popular off-instance communities are already subscribed to, then users would see a huge list of both local and foreign communities. For users who got unlucky and had their first lemmy experience on a small instance, their view of “all” looks like a ghost town.

    Part of the problem is semantical. If they are going to call it “all” then it should really be all (all lemmy communities available on all federated instances). If it isn’t going to actually show everything, then they should call it something else that indicates it’s only local communities plus whatever local users are subscribed to.


  • krayj@lemmy.worldtoTechnology@lemmy.worldPrinters
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    I would NEVER recommend a modern HP printer, but…I have a HP Laserjet 4000 (Circa 1997) that I ‘acquired’ from the company I worked for that went bankrupt.

    This thing refuses to die. current impression count is over 500,000 prints. All its patents expired over a decade ago, and it’s still easy to find parts and toner (originals, and now even 3rd party knockoffs). It’s old enough now that modern generic drivers have built in support for it. The only parts I’ve ever had to replace are the rubber sheet feeder rollers which dry out and stop working correctly after 12-15 years.

    So, I guess the point here is that some really solid printers were made a couple decades ago, back when manufacturers still took pride in their products, and they are old enough that the hardware is no longer protected by patents (so practically open) and robust driver support without all the bullshit. Picking up something from this era and cleaning it up would come close to satisfying a lot of your requirements.




  • Putting a Netflix show on DVD and selling it is absolutely illegal unless they have a distribution license provided by the copyright holder.

    It would be legal after copyright expires (in the US, copyright exists for the lifespan of the author/creator + 70 years). Keep in mind that the US has stricter copyright laws than most of the rest of the world.

    For other items, like physical functional items, reproductions are generally legal unless the item is patented. And it would still not be legal for the reproduction to also reproduce any registered names or trademarks associated with the original. Example: you could legally reproduce and sell knockoff Nike Air Jordans as long as you didn’t use the Nike swoosh or any likenesses of the copyrighted artwork. For items that are patented, or patent pending - making and selling reproductions is illegal - and for most patented items the reproduction doesn’t even have to be identical for it to be infringing, just replicating the functionality is probably infringing.


  • I have faced the same issue as OP. Clearing all app data (or uninstalling/reinstalling) works to fix it, but I get the impression that OP doesn’t want to have to re-add and log back into their multiple lemmy accounts after doing that.

    Ideally, liftoff would’t go into a state of being nearly unusable when your default instance is having problems. That’s the point of the post.


  • It depends entirely on the jurisdiction. Take the city of Seattle, for example (I know this because I planned an executed a nude photo shoot in public view inside the city limits and sought legal council ahead of time to ensure I wan’t risking being charged with any crimes). The general rule for Seattle hinges on whether the activity is intended to tittilate or sexually arouse observers - and if that is obviously not the intent, then even full nudity is not illegal. Many other large cities have very similar ordinances.

    The smaller the town, and the more conservative the region, the stricter and less flexible the ordinances. There are beaches in South Carolina, for example, where they even regulate the minimum amount of coverage for bikinis and beachware.