

I admit, all distros are a different degree of footguns, I’m saying this as a nix user. lol


I admit, all distros are a different degree of footguns, I’m saying this as a nix user. lol


What you described is what happaned with arch. The transitioning shouldn’t have happened this way, IMO.
Other distros usually don’t send their users to TTY after an update if they can help it.
On the long term, the situation is the same on linux and windows: you choose the latest driver and live with that given feature set and its bugs.


Rolling distros also only update when you tell them. It is the user who is pulling the trigger on the footgun in both cases.
I’d say the main difference is that arch users are more trigger-happy about being up to date.
Also, I think pacman should at least warn you if the problem is enough to warrant a post on the arch website.


It’s 2025, can we not display a warning message in pacman? Or letting it switch from nvidia-590 to nvidia-legacy?
I’m not an arch user, I admit, I don’t like footguns.


I believe the same SW version is packaged. Nvidia said they’d drop support in the 580 release, but they shifted it to 590 now.
The arch issues are another layer of headache by the maintainers changing the package names and people breaking their systems on update when a non-compatible version is pulled replacing the one with still pascal support in it.


Are they supported longer on the windows driver?


According to the Steam HW survey around 6% of users are still using Pascal (10xx) GPUs. That’s about 8.4 million GPUs losing proprietary driver support. What a waste.
GPU %
1060 1.86
1050ti 1.43
1070 0.78
1050 0.67
1080 0.5
1080ti 0.38
1070ti 0.24
Fixed: 1050 was noted as 1050ti


Making them open to contributions was the first step, but ok I won’t engage in this petty tribalism.
The topic was about nvidia’s closed source drives.
Valve couldn’t do the same for pascal GPUs. Nobody but nvidia has the reclocking firmware, so even the reverse engineered nouveau NVK drivers are stuck at boot clock speeds.


You can’t expect them to support every single product they’ve ever released forever. And they’re still doing better than AMD in that regard.
If nvidia had the pre-GSP cards’ drivers opensourced at least there would be a chance of maintaining support. But nvidia pulled the plug.
Intel’s and AMD’s drivers in the Mesa project will continue to receive support.
For example, just this week: Phoronix: Linux 6.19’s Significant ~30% Performance Boost For Old AMD Radeon GPUs These are GCN1 GPUs from 13yrs ago.


You could use its VRAM as a higher priority swap. Extra memory effectively.
You’re right. Off-by-1 error. Would be a Z4 then.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Daldøs_dice.jpg/500px-Daldøs_dice.jpg
What is the sentiment one dice like these?
D8 mod 4


I would love to have requirements. (No, vague teams messages still don’t count!)
Oh, look at Mr Many Environments here, he’s too good to test on prod like the rest of us do.


Please, not the toilet paper shortage again!
Make it vertical? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Lucrative? You surely mean VC investment fueled. AI companies are setting cash on fire each day to keep the hype going, there is no profit.
A good indicator is employees selling their stock options instead of holding on to them. You’d think they hold onto if AI was really the future.
Dinosaurs could have had lots of flappy bits!
I have a suspicion it is.