That_Mad_Scientist

Ok, but that wasn’t the point being made here… the EU has internal democracy. Russia does not. That’s the comparison.

Funny how it’s so obviously wrong: https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-rejects-peace-says-war-to-continue-for-forseeable-future-2023-8?r=US&IR=T

I could say I told you so, but… you know what, sure: I told you so.

Also, I can’t be arsed to respond to your clear lack of reading comprehension skills, but I’m not pinning shit on lula, and this article is literally about him, so I’m really not sure where you’re going with this.

And, yes, I understand why russia has a seat, and I’m not saying this will happen (it won’t), simply that it should.

How am I supposed to know that something you said with no context and in a 100% deadpan serious tone is jest? Cause it sounds exactly like what you were saying.

And, I’m sorry, what do you think « the internationale » means? It’s not « the regionale » for a reason. Don’t care about europeans killing other europeans my ass. People are people, dictators are dictators, invasion is invasion, and it affects everyone, whether you like it or not.

I’m not even going to comment on the EU being « authoritarian ».

Sure, we can boot the US too. That works. But russia needs to go. Those « historical and material reasons » you speak of aren’t justification enough in light of their recent actions. It wasn’t even their seat, but the ussr’s. Which they are not the continuation of in any real way.

Yes, of course, no country is free from imperialism. That doesn’t make brazil imperialist or western aligned, what are you talking about?

I’m a pacifist, but, and I cannot believe I am saying this, you can’t use a ceasefire against someone unilaterally invading another sovereign nation. Does this actually need to be stated? The only ceasefire that would make sense is one that’s conditioned on putin getting the fuck out of ukraine. Anything else is tantamount to simply giving him the land that he seized illegally for his own benefit and letting him get away with war crimes. Russia has the power to make the war stop unilaterally at any point, by simply getting out of there. But they won’t, because they don’t want to. Which is why no amounts of peace talks will ever work: they are proving through their actions that they are not after a compromise. There is no compromise between a thief and it’s victim; « just » talking half of your life savings instead of all of it is no compromise at all.

I’m talking about lula because I believe his heart is in the right place, but that he is ineffectual in practice. That’s what my criticism is aimed at. Obviously that’s not the un’s problem, are we not allowed tangential discussion anymore? It’s relevant because it speaks for his motivations. But, like in many other democracies, there is no choice at all if the choice is between any candidate and a neofascist. Meaning: we in the international community don’t know what he’s doing out of representation for his people’s sovereignty of expression, and what he is doing out of his own will. Democracy should not depend on blind trust of public officials, not matter how well-intentioned. I simply believe that this should be solved organically by the citizens of brazil and I trust that they will empower some actually solid leadership in the un. This can be things I disagree with, sure, but global democracy depends on internal democracy. When macron or biden make a geopolitical move, can we say with any degree of certainty that they speaking on behalf of their citizens? Obviously not. The same applies here.

I am personally quite worried that lula would express some opinions that show a clear lack of solidarity for the ukrainian people when talking about a situation that is a gauge of global relations between democracies and autocracies everwhere. It’s no coincidence that there has been increased activity around taiwan. It’s also no coincidence that far-right populists have been having their way in the ballot box in many countries. And it’s no coincidence that there have been putches in central africa, which, mind you, are supported by wagner mercenaries, and we have seen russian flags fly there.

True solidarity is solidarity everywhere, because true authoritarianism is increased vulnerability to further authoritarianism everywhere.

And brazil should get that seat from russia’s. Remove an imperialist warmongering nation, replace it with one that still clearly isn’t directly aligned with western interests, as evidenced by the fact that lula can say this kind of thing freely and the worst that can happen to him as a consequence is some raised eyebrows. But his take is still insane and naive, and the brasilian people deserve better than « not bolsonaro » as the only option. I’m starting to see a pattern here: « not trump », « not le pen »… Global democracy is not doing well. Granted, as far as I understand it, he has had some actual progressive positions and policies in the past, and I can’t speak for his domestic impact, but he’s not being a leader on the world stage here, and it shows.

Guys I’m sure appeasement will work this time, right?

Right?

Good question, those would be self-proclaimed « marxist-leninists » or authcoms, who are actually just red fash and here for the aesthetic of a charismatic leader associated with places that have historically been communist, like russsia or china, despite the obvious fact that they are capitalist oligarchies/autocracies, and despite the fact that these formerly communist countries were never properly socialist to begin with, but state ecomonies led by minority rule instead. In short, lost, terminally online « « leftists » » whose only defense is calling for « unity » and an end to « infighting » as if they were actually a part of the movement to end worker exploitation at all in the first place.

So, grifters.

There really are no limits to putin’s cruelty, huh

Oh that’s not a good look…