Sexualized depiction women are inherently misogynist because we live in a patriarchal society and sexualization is distinct from sexuality. Watch the lingerie is not armor video.
There are video games where women have nude sex scenes and they aren’t sexualized and there are video games where women are clothed and doing something that has nothing to do with sex and are sexualized.
Saying women who enjoy misogynist things is not an attack on them. Something can be misogynist and we can have complex feelings about it. It doesn’t mean we are being tricked or have no say in how we process it. In one of the links I posted, a woman said Bayonetta was misogynist and she also talked about what she liked about the game.
Your argument is essentially that if a woman enjoys a piece of media, it can’t be sexist. That’s a lib way of understanding things.
The workers made the character under his direction. His ideas shaped the character. He isn’t a capitalist, he’s an artist, and a worker himself.
This is your defense of Bayonetta:
She and the game can’t be misogynist because there are women that like the character and games
The series creator, the director/writer (and another producer) of the game actually had little to do with its development (citation needed) so their misogynism regarding the development actually had no effect on the game. This also implies that all the other men that worked on the game weren’t misogynist, which you somehow know.
Ignoring feminist critics that called Bayonetta misogynist.
That leads me to another question. Is there any popular art that you think is actually misogynist? Because if there’s something that’s enjoyed by millions of people worldwide, some of those people are going to be women which leads to popular art unable to be misogynist.
I didn’t say they women wrong to enjoy these things. I don’t think we should pretend misogynist media is something it’s not.
We all enjoy problematic things.
A woman having the same fantasy doesn’t mean it can’t be misogynist. That kind of defense only comes up when women are into something that was designed with men as the intended target audience.
These people didn’t come to the defense of 50 shades of grey with the same argument. It was something everyone dunked on as sexist even though it was written for women by a woman.
We live in a misogynist culture so it isn’t rare for us to have misogynist fantasies.
I’m not telling you what to think. There’s no evidence that points to Bayonetta being anything but some guy’s horny fantasy of what women should be but people can think what they want.
Women that criticized Bayonetta were harassed for not towing the line on misogynist nerd shit so they don’t talk about the character or the series as much anymore.
Examples are out there if you look.
https://gomakemeasandwich.wordpress.com/2011/06/03/bayonetta-and-the-male-gaze/
https://feministfrequency.com/video/bayonetta-innovative-advertising-or-sexual-harassment-training/
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/521778746655649792?lang=en
https://agameofme.tumblr.com/post/102909075862/bayonetta-2s-sexless-sexiness-and-the
Those that come to the defense of the character and series also ignore the obvious misogyny demonstrated by the creators. Bayonetta’s only feminist or unproblematic if you buy into Naomi Wolfe’s bullshit Fire with Fire feminism.
The other main contributor to the character is the original VA, who’s outed herself as blue lives matter transphobic anti-choice chud. Character doesn’t have a lot on her side.