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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • I don’t think the problem is with the foreign people accepting lower wages and forcing more competition. I believe it is more of a symptom/mechanism of wage theft. Which has been going on for decades to bleed the workforce dry and enslave them through unrepayable debts.

    Though I believe foreign graduates taking less pay for employment is not the problem or inherently bad, it’s not helping workers as a whole.

    I believe that in addition to your suggestions there would need to be stronger wage and worker protection laws to prevent companies from clearing out employees with longer tenure/higher rates of pay before enacting this specific type of policy.

    I think that would allow for a more healthy competition where incumbent workers/natural citizens won’t be replaced/undercut by foreign graduates who have to debase themselves by taking lesser pay for the same work.

    In my opinion it’s as if Trump would do this as a way to weaponize cheaper labor against the working class so corporations can improve their margin by slashing labor costs.

    I could be totally wrong, and am open to other opinions but maybe that’s where OP’s line of thinking may be.


  • Read the article, you’re just saying stuff.

    Categorically false and not supported by the article. What you described is the negotiation process for anything. If your first ask in a wage negotiation isn’t higher than your target you’re doing it wrong.

    I never said there aren’t other motivating factors to stay at a job. But saying it’s not as important as people think is at best a bad faith argument. It’s not up to you to decide what other people think, aside from the mountain of evidence otherwise.

    Either you’re being purposely obtuse, you have some disgruntled employess, or you like the taste of boots. In any case, your comments aren’t contributing anything meaningful to this conversation.


  • 1.) A 5% raise doesn’t even cover inflation.

    2.) No one who is serious about wanting a pay raise to stay is asking for an 67% increase in pay.

    3.) Leaving because of pay is typically because someone is offering substantially more money/better benefits for a similar position.

    4.) You have it backwards you definitely worry about raises in pay, especially before you get a raise of $10-20k.

    5.) As someone who has made 60k/yr a raise of 6-10k would be more than enough incentive to stay. It would easily outpace inflation and reward someone who is doing well.