Il grosso gradone è che spesso agli enti conviene non solo per un discorso di costi.

Che uptime ha un server mantenuto dall’università? Se va down c’è l’assistenza non dico H24 ma che risponde in poche ore? Perché se feddit va down qualche giorno anche pazienza, se vanno down i servizi universitari durante la sessione si alza il panico.

Chi è che si occupa di data privacy? Per rispettare il GDPR deve essere nominato un funzionario che si occupa di tutte le richieste di compliance.

Che data persistence avrebbe? Perché Google/Microsoft ti conservano plurime copie di backup anche cold storage su nastro magnetico, in self hosting? Oppure corriamo il rischio che succeda qualcosa e tutti i dati di studenti, docenti, dottorandi e staff vario faccia una brutta fine con tutti i casini connessi?

Purtroppo c’è un motivo se anche aziende giganti preferiscono esternalizzare i servizi It piuttosto che fare self hosting, anche se magari costerebbe anche meno

I think we’re just getting started.

Yeah of course, we need to remember Lemmy is not even out of beta yet. But people don’t really care, they try it once and if the user experience isn’t at the level of competitors they simply won’t use it unless there’s a philosophical rationale (for example decentralization, but many don’t care at all). That’s why I’m so happy many developers with great UX experience like Sync are approaching the platform

I mean… What? That’s kind of exactly what’s happening in lemmy communities

Indeed I can understand this one. I’m really liking Lemmy but discoverability is pretty bad, add the fact the ranking is shit and pretty useless in suggesting interesting content and you will understand his point.

Reddit has both much more content and not only a better ranking system but also a functioning personalized algorithm, if you want to use it.

To this day, all of the non mainstream Lemmy communities I’m following it’s because I’ve used to follow the subreddit and it migrated here.

But I think there’s a big difference here

I tried to use mastodon but I feel that microblogging inherently require some centralization, it’s impossibile to find people to follow and the feed is always a mess with bunch of stuff that doesn’t interest me.

On the contrary I’m using Lemmy since a while and it works much better for content discovery, communities act as a"human algorithm" the same way they work on Reddit and it help much with the federation approach.

What I arrived to realize is that some form of social media are more adaptable to the fediverse.

For example, I hardly see any decentralized version of TikTok

Centralized services are usually more efficient than decentralized but that’s not the primary goal of the fediverse

My main concern with this is, if only a handful of centralized social network reached long term stability, and most of them are unprofitable, how can Lemmy (or any other foss fediverse project) completely hold itself on 2 unpaid developers and immense unpaid work from volunteers in the long run.

Because ok, Lemmy.world is looking for experienced sysadmin and that post already had a little backslash, but this isn’t sustainable long term, it’s impossibile to keep scaling like that.

And I feel that’s one of the biggest reasons holding back the fediverse

I strongly disagree.

It’s indeed an important sign the fediverse is growing organically and attracting people outside the niche.

I’d really like to see Lemmy compatibile server implementation and I don’t care if they make the code closed source or you have to pay to register. The idea of the fediverse is exactly tho be open to diverse philosophies.

For the very same reason I’m glad threads will be federate with the rest of the fediverse. Don’t like that particular instance? Don’t use it, just like you don’t use a website you don’t like despite them using the same standard as everyone else

You’re not, we also have English communities like https://feddit.it/c/askitaly And you’re free to make post in English in italian communities using the English tag

The only thing they have at registration is that you need to write a sentence in “some regional italian slang” And that’s basically serve the purpose to restrict a little bit sign in not to finish like lemmy.world targeting italian speakers

But it’s actually pretty easy

Ok but the question that arise is:" if the community is duplicated on every server that access it, isn’t it a little bit of a waste of computational power and disk space ?"

Expecially considering now Lemmy is pretty small, but in the future you could hopefully have a much larger audience

Honestly, this

I really can’t understand people who would rather prefer the fediverse to stay small and irrelevant than to open up and find compromises to reach hundreds of millions of active users worldwide and making federated social media mainstream. Compromises will have to be made anyway, as Lemmy is already struggling under growth and poor developed software (it’s not anybody’s fault, it’s literally a project by 2 developers and a few volunteers maintaining servers, they still have a long way to go)

On a sidenote, most Lemmy instances would probably explode under the weight of everyone following subreddit and server needing to replicate all the content from what would be alone several times bigger than the entire fediverse combined.

Ok but how other people will know I replied to a comment or posted if the community on the original server is down?

You can make identification decentralized/distributed too

Just in a different way so that it is unequivocal

I don’t think the problem is much on the identification side, but on the communities one

Like, I can’t access any community on .world while the instance is down

That’s is one of major Lemmy flaw IMHO

They should have separated identification and content. Make a unified id system and then let people host their own communities on the federated level.

This would have been expecially important as you can’t really move your account among instances, and would have make the registration process also much easier for normal users who just want to use the platform

What you mean with “becoming”?

I’ve always been a crochety asshole, it’s just that growing old I’m accepting Squidward was right all along

I feel old

I feel so HECKING old

Honestly even some environmentalists over here are against wind turbines because they say they are “unnatural” and as such they shouldn’t have a place in woods and natural landscapes.

So at this point I’m starting to think we’re doomed and fuck everything

I think the main problem with Lemmy (and with Mastodon and many fediverse software too) is discoverability, expecially when the network is so small like in our case.

Lemmy ranking algorithm suck, it never succede in showing me interesting content, unless you opt for a “subscribed only” feed I can’t see why follow communities if they never impact how they appear, and discovering new interesting communities is basically impossible, all the ones I follow are from reddit refugees that left a pinned post on Reddit saying “you can find us at this Lemmy instance as c/…”