• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Basically the same thing Edgerunners did for Cyberpunk 2077 but on a smaller scale with a different type of audience.

    Todd’s probably thinking that using television is a good way to finally bridge the gap between gamer shit and the boomers who only play mobile games. The only way into those people is through the tv or the phone. If they like a show enough you might be able to convince them to finally play one of those games their kids played 10 years ago.

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    My idea of “way more popular than expected” would be if people who had never heard of the Fallout games were talking about the TV show. I’ve only seen it talked about in circles that already played the games, or at the very least could give you a cultural-osmosis summary of them.

    Which means Todd Howard is suppressed to learn Fallout fans will accept any old slop with the right branding on it.

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      My mother watches Fallout. She’s 71, and has tried playing games a couple times. I think she tried Super Mario Bros. on the NES (when it was brand new and none of us could get the hang of jumping while running, like yeah, the idea of holding B while moving to run and, while still holding B, hitting A to jump) and gave up for years. She tried a game like Tomb Raider on PS2. I remember what it looked like but not what it was. It was one of those type of games though. And I think my brother got her to try something on Xbox (the OG one) once. Halo maybe? Anyway, she hates games and can’t get the hang of them. Even games that run on the tablet she has, like match-3 types (Candy Crush or Royal Match) or something like Subway Surfers or Jetpack Joyride (an endless runner). She could probably do solitaire, poker, something like that. (Maybe Balatro?) I wonder if she could do Animal Crossing. Well, at least until the spiders and tarantulas show up — serious arachnophobia there.

      But yes, my mother watches Fallout. She thinks parts of it are weird (the Vaults, the Brotherhood of Steel) but she thinks it’s a fun fantasy adventure that kind of reminds her of Mad Max a little. She knows my brother and I play the games (not the turn-based ones and not 76), but has no interest in the games at all.

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        Ya, my father watches it. He doesn’t hate games, but just doesn’t really play them. Similar age, maybe a little younger than your mom. But ya, he loved Fallout. Don’t think he even knew it was based off a game lol.

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          I think there is a whole subset of people who watch a show based on a game and they don’t know the game it’s based on. Maybe they know it is based on a game, but they don’t care.

          Look at all the people who love the IT movies who will never read the Stephen King book. “Oh, but that’s a book,” some might say, but games take a long time, too. The IT audiobook is 45 hours. Probably about twice what it takes (just guessing) to read the actual book.

          There are also people who watch anime but don’t read the manga or light novels. I’m guilty of this myself. I did read the manga for My Hero Academia and The Promised Neverland. I’m reading the books for Sword Art Online. Just finished the 9th one (of like 25+…). But most people won’t bother. (The books are way better than the anime!)

          I think there will always be people who are fans of adaptations but won’t mess with the source material. And I think it’s fine. I’m not gonna tell them they’re not real fans if they don’t know the source. I’m just happy the stories can reach new people.

          Circling back to Fallout, I think it’s funny when people look at the Deathclaw and say “that looks like a little Godzilla.” Well, it’s based on the Tarrasque from D&D… which was based on Godzilla. So, they’re basically right. Then you also have the Jurassic Park velociraptor (as opposed to real ones which were much smaller, like turkey size). And a bunch of other bipedal reptilian horrors. You could even throw Alien’s xenomorph in that mix. I think it’s fine to draw connections, but the real point is to enjoy the media.

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      Can tell you from experience at the office that a lot of middle age white women are definitely getting into the show with zero knowledge of the games.

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        it is clowned on just not by enough people

        the show is poorly written FNV revisionist slop

        but it is pretty tho so ill probably still watch it for the visuals alone

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          Ella Purnell and Walter Goggins are legit good actors and are pretty much carrying the show on their backs.

          The writing nails the vibe of the Fallout universe in the general sense, the problem is setting it on the west coast (where, y’know all the beloved Black Isle and Obsidian games are set). If they set it in Bethesda continuity locations on the east coast like Washington there would probably be fewer problems, since the show fits the tone of what Bethesda ended up doing anyway.

          Because yeah messing with the earlier games open-ended endings feels wrong and ends up introducing some weird themes that I don’t think were intended.

          Edited: I got my american geography mixed up lol

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      yep
      the anniversary edition came with a bunch of built-in paid mods of varying quality, many of which break the intended progression curve of the game and some of which just don’t work properly
      enjoy seeing

      LOOKUP FAILED!

      on stuff lmao

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        Yeah, no, Fallout 4 has always had issues, but they mean the face gen thing. There was a bug introduced last year (like a year and a half ago!) that, apparently, if the game randomly generated a certain set of choices in its random NPC generator, be it a settler or a raider, the game would crash if you approached them. Modders approached them with a fix and they said “nah it’s fine.” The problem got way worse if you were running Sim Settlements because it generates something like twice as many settlers (more?) than the base game.

        Bethesda claim they fixed the bug with the 10th anniversary edition, but fans and modders say they broke other stuff.