This occurred to me the other day and I feel like it’s so crazy that it maybe could happen. Is it too late for him to run in the upcoming election?
He was not born in the US, and is therefore ineligible for office.
You have to admit though that after all of the Obama birther bullshit, it would perfectly round out the Gaslight Obstruct and Project gameplan.
If they don’t manage to tick every box oh well, pobody’s nerfect.
Also for all their fussing about Obama not being born in the US (even though he was), their guy, John McCain actually wasn’t born in the US, but in Panama. McCain was still considered a natural-born citizen because of an act of congress which stated:
And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.
Which would also presumably cover Obama even if he wasn’t born in the US, since one of his parents is American.
Also Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico but was allowed to run for president in 1968 for the same reason.
Oh I didn’t know that! Good call.
I used to think it was a bad rule. Now I see.
I guess, I mean there could be value in having an outsider in office, just not him. But I don’t know. It is a little sketch.
Put it this way, should the range of eligible candidates include the world’s richest person, or merely the richest person born in America?
I think the thought of this rule is to prevent an actual puppet of an enemy country being bankrolled into office by a malicious foreign entity. Obviously he could do it himself. But he’d still probably destroy this county quicker than he destroyed Twitter.
You’re talking to a guy who thinks that has probably already happened at least once, so I’m thinking if it at least stops Musk from running then the rule at least had an unintended good side effect.
That said I don’t think more billionaires will need to become presidents to kill the country. They nearly succeeded with Jan 6 already.
And that’s fair, there are plenty of puppets that were born here. But I guess in the brain of the founders, maybe that was was inconceivable. If that was indeed the intent.
Maybe it’s like a failsafe rule, to not put the country in danger 🤷.
@Gradually_Adjusting Let’s be honest, if non-natural born US citizens could be president, there’s a non-szero chance we would have seen President Schwarzenegger more than decade ago.
I love Arrnie, fon’t get me wrong, but electing popular figures rarely goes well (lloking at you, Reagan)Looking at you, Trump.
Not strictly necessary. If his parents were US citizens–and they aren’t–then it wouldn’t matter where he was born. Kind of. I think that there might be residency requirements for children of US citizens that are born abroad, e.g., if your parents are expats and you live all your life in another country, you might not be a citizen, but it’s complicated. You’d def. want to contact an immigration attorney if that was the case.
BUT…!
The point is that Musk, since he wasn’t born to US citizens, and since he wasn’t born in the US, isn’t eligible to run for president.
It’s an open question as to what happens if he ran anyways, and how votes would be tabulated, etc. It would get messy, but I don’t think that it’s ever happened that someone ineligible has run for president and won any significant amount of the vote.
Neither was Ted Cruz, but he still ran in the primary.
How embarrassing for him.
Wow, didn’t actually know this, good info 👍.
Thank the lord for him not being able to run
Don’t give more billionaires this idea.
Too late, they saw how successful it was for Trump.
Not a natural born American Citizen, not that the constitution means anything anymore but we at least pay lip service to it sometimes and that’s part of it.
Honestly…im fucking here for that. Obviously he would never get elected but holy shit his campaign would be deliciously cringe worthy.
That’s what they all said about Trump though too. “Obviously he would never get elected”.
…true
I think the last several years have shown us that idiocy shouldn’t be tolerated just because we think it’s morbidly entertaining.
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“Natural born” is key. You have to have been born there or at least have been born to American parents.
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So there are three basic choices in governance. All governances boil down to some form of rule of law, anarchism, or tyranny. If it is possible that the person with the most money simply gets to do whatever they want, that is tyranny.
Do what you will with that info.
@Gradually_Adjusting Hi! Welcome to Planet Earth. Please tell the alien overlords to hurry up and invade, we are suffering under tyranny
Clearly you don’t know Elon nor how citizenship works!
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So, a child born on American soild but to non-citizens is not granted citizenship? Or is it just not considered natural-born? Or is it and dirt enters that equation?
I’m not American so please excuse me asking what possibly every US elementary school kid knows.
The United States is one of the few countries in the world where people born on its soil to alien parents are automatically granted US citizenship. However, citizens by birth are not necessarily “natural born”, as the phrase has been a subject of judicial debate.
Not born here yep, everytime this pops into my head I think yay! although it would be funny to watch him waste more money because he wouldn’t win…
If he was planning to, helping Ron DeSantis to launch his own campaign would be kind of a weird move
Trump was (and, fuck, maybe will be again) elected president. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. As of right now, no he can’t since he isn’t natural born, but hell, it’s not impossible to have the constitution amended, just very unlikely.
I remember after Trump was elected, I stopped watching House of Cards (I think this was before Spacey’s indiscretions were mainstream public) because reality really became stranger and scarier than fiction.
