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- technology@lemmy.world
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- technology@lemmy.world
About 59% of Americans say TikTok a threat to the national security of the United States, according to a new survey of U.S. adults.
About 59% of Americans say TikTok a threat to the national security of the United States, according to a new survey of U.S. adults.
Which is why I find the whole banning TikTok concept absurd.
It’s picking one easy scapegoat company to rally around, completely ignores the thousands upon thousands of other applications that collect data on us.
It’s not security, it’s security theater. It’s lazy and designed to distract us. It’s to keep us from not asking questions about any company’s practices that might hurt someone politically or financially.
We don’t need to ban TikTok. We need to ban Tik Tok and thousands of others like it. We need to have real conversations and put forth real solutions with regards to privacy, globally. It won’t happen though. Because it’s going to cost somebody money.
I’ve come to the conclusion that it is algorithms that have become evil. There was a thread where someone was asking for help stoppinh YouTube from radicalizing their mother due to the videos it would suggest to her.
I use stuff like newpipe and freetube to try and get away from these personalized attempts at content, since there is still good content on YouTube. It’s just that so many sites try and keep you there as long as possible and then start feeding you content that can warp people. But, algorithms don’t understand the impact of it, since it’s either a 0 or 1 of user stays or user leaves.
If you can be radicalized by videos from YouTube, it isn’t the algorithm, it’s you
https://lemmy.world/post/1184403
Yeah that’s entirely on her.
World doesn’t exist in an individual vacuum. The people negatively influenced by disinformation go onto to take a role in society and interact with others to either negatively or positively affect the people they encounter. Congratulations on your individual resilience, but the world is not a population consisting of only you with you alone determining the impact other people have on the world.
Yeah and, once again, those people are the problem.
Unless you want to ban any food that isn’t fruits and vegetables, cars, not sleeping enough, not getting enough exercise etc, at some point you have to accept that people do in fact make their own choices.
I’m not for banning things because some people are idiots.
I feel bad that you’ve been radicalized into thinking this way.
Im not concerned with your feelings.
It’s not just all you or all youtube. Both matter. It’s harmfully reductionist to act like it, not both.
Both really don’t matter, since adults have a right to chose to consume any content they’d like.
If your grandma finds Q fascinating, that’s on your grandma
algorithms can’t “become evil” any more than your toaster can. It’s being directed and programmed by people who know exactly what they’re intending to achieve.
It’s to say algorithms despite no intent to be evil have led to negative impact due to no care for the context of the recommendation. So someone can go in searching up health information then go down a rabbit hole of being recommended pseudo health advice then flat earth and so on. Not because the algorithm wants to turn people a certain way, but because it’s just recommending videos that users that liked similar videos might find of interest. It’s just broad categories.
Wasn’t implying algorithms are sentient. At least not yet until AI integration happens.
It’s not a distraction. It’s a justification. The bill behind it in Congress is so broadly worded that the government can effectively shut down any Internet business with little to no warning.
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You don’t think Meta, Google etc are passing data to the American government?
They will comply with any court order. They won’t hand over unfettered access like TikTok has to in China.
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Considering the CCP can’t arrest Americans but the US government can, it makes no sense to be more afraid of china on a personal level.
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That would be a very convincing arguement if China bordered the US.
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Lmao no japanese soldier set foot on the continent of north America dude
Yes, yes I do. Also the CCP can’t ruin my life, unlike Uncle Sam. Deciding which one is more evil is irrelevant.
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The majority of americans are fuckin stupid and believe whatever their TV programming tells them to believe.
Who said anything about war?? I’m staying “in this regard”, which is about privacy and data being taken and used by a government. Outside of that context yes I think the CCP is absolutely worse than the US in just about every category. There’s no question there.
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That’s not what I was responding to but in any case, no, I don’t think tiktok is a threat to national security or going to cause a war. This is FUD.
It’s not about the CCP. It’s because kids watch TikTok and then don’t like conservatives
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It is absolutely a partisan issue because that’s why Republicans brought it up in the first place. The CCP gathering metadata on users has no bearing on our ability to beat them at sea, which is the only sphere of influence that matters with Chinese aggression.
Should US military bases ban TikTok? Sure. Should the government block the app on all government phones, also sure. Banning social media wholesale is a disgusting precedent to set, and is fundamentally anti-American.
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Unless you can prove TikTok is spyware and not just gathering user data per already accepted guidelines then you have no leg to stand on here.
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Not a problem for me or any other sane person
As for the CCP bylaws, I’m all for the Chinese overthrowing their hell-gov and instituting liberal democracy but until they do, it’s a non-factor.
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In that analogy Facebook has been murdering people for a decade but we refuse to do anything about it.
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Facebook has been giving data to the CCP for over a decade. If that’s the big bad, then that’s it. It doesn’t matter who owns the company. If you want to talk about battlefield shaping I can speak to that. I was in the military. When comes down to it I don’t care how the minefield got breached. It’s breached and there’s a hole that can be exploited. I don’t care if company A did it or company B.
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Have you looked at the permissions Meta requires to run an app on your phone these days?
There is no difference. They’re taking everything.
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Neither is TikTok. Both of them are companies giving data to China. Why are you so invested in defending Meta?