I mean like this: “Realized that most of these programs are not meant to help anyone, merely to control people and make them dependent. I was forced to reconsider everything I’d once believed. I developed a profound distrust of government regardless of the philosophy of the people in power. I remained a liberal on civil-rights issues, became a conservative on defense, and a semi-libertarian on all other matters.” - Dean Koontz. Am I wrong?

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    I wouldn’t say I have anything against capitalism in principle. I just like open and federated systems.

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    Meh my economic beliefs are: if it works do it. If it doesn’t admit you were wrong but you tried and do something else. I don’t trust economists, banks, or any political leader that identifies with an economic school.

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    I’m anti-capitalist, and anti-corp. Megacorporations are the logical endpoint of the structures of capitalism, regardless of pro-capitalist propaganda claiming otherwise nya.

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    Closed social networks benefit a lot from the network effect, which makes them natural monopolies. This breaks one of the core mechanisms of capitalism, which is the free market that is supposed to drive innovation and make businesses strive to “perfection.”

    From that point of view, any supporter of capitalism would probably not support any of the current commercial social networks, and instead feel more comfortable on a federated alternative.

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      That is the theory (read, propaganda or at least narrative) about capitalism. I don’t think it’s a misunderstanding that all the biggest companies in the last 20 years (in tech) have done exactly the opposite, building walled gardens and locking-in users. I would say they feel pretty confident because nobody cares about competition as an abstract value, this is just the tool that is used to give the feeling of freedom. Even today you have the “freedom” to compete with the big dogs. You just need a few hundreds of millions of investment, which depend on other people wanting to make money out of your product and therefore force you to adopt a certain business model. Good luck.

      Incidentally this is also why I don’t understand those who see the fediverse as “competition” or hope for mass migrations (millions of users). The point of the fediverse for me is to create a space (in the cyberspace) which is outside the capitalist reach. The equivalent of a park or a square when you can exist without the need to consume or pay. Parks should not, and cannot, compete with malls.

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      yes… thanks for the words syndicalism and mutualism. I just remembered the book about spanyol revolution in 1936 - 1939 I’ve read before. from your POV, what cases or histories that makes you to think like now? in embracing syndicalism and mutualism?

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        Honestly it’s the fact that I started off just a general anarchist, then I joined a union which was immensely valuable to my understanding of the role of organized labor in revolutionary action as well as the fact that I don’t think trade is bad, certain things can have different values, but I want fairness and I want everyone to have the freedom to have their needs met before we start distributing excess value. Taking part in small communities that share as needed has helped form that.

        It’s not really theory that drove me to all of it, just life

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          Wow, you already implementing the anarchist way to the highest point imo. What I must focused first if I want to take a step like you? Unfortunately, I’m worker with WFH style. So the organization vibe touched me when I’m still colleague last time. Can you explain what I need to do in order to create small communities? Your answer really give me insight and push to take anarchist life very seriously. Thank you very much…

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            I’m not yet where I want to be with it. I just have developed a habit of saying “yes” to opportunities to engage in good praxis. Some things I’ve done include keeping the letterkenny line “if if someone needs help you help them” in mind. But I have a huge advantage here that I’m polyamorous and so that’s come with a built in network. Getting to know the people in your life and becoming someone people know is dependable and happy to trade favors without keeping score is something that may work.

            That said, my wife has done a lot of anarchist activism and you may find benefits in looking into groups like those providing books to prisoners, prison abolition groups, and food not bombs. You probably have some form of anarchic activism going on in the city nearest to you. But keep in mind that boundaries are important. More always needs done, do what you can and don’t feel guilty when you can’t do more.

            And as for unionization, unfortunately I left that union. It was very good for me and heavily impacted my politics despite being a major liberal union because I saw how much better work was in it. But I’m an engineer and in order to advance my career I had to leave jobs that included established unions. I know if you ask your local IWW to teach a class on establishing a union they likely will gladly help even if you’re looking to join something more liberal like the teamsters or UAW.

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                Glad to help! And if you’re looking for modern mutualist writings David Graeber, who’s most famous book is Bullshit Jobs, is apparently well respected by mutualists.

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    I’d say that I’m more anti-corporate, but not completely anti-capitalist. I do agree however that capitalism needs to be better regulated tho.

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      Regulation in capitalist created by people or choosen individual from mass / public right? If we want to have a better regulation, do we need change the leader or what other options do we have in capitalist system in your opinion?

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        I think I’m largely with @asamson23@lemmy.world, I’ll comment here.

        I think realistically, we need to give our anti-monopoly laws teeth, and give them automatic effect. Hard and fast rules (thought out to catch loop holes) like “there can’t be one company with more than 15% of any market which directly affects more than 45% of citizens on an annual basis.”

        Similarly, clearing up political funding regulations, preventing insider trading by representatives, and preventing obvious “bribe” jobs post representation.

        FWIW, I think Socialism is interesting, but I think the influence of human greed is too strong in a socialist system. In a true socialist system, rather than capital gains being a route to power, the greedy have one route, government. I think this is fundamentally the reason why no attempts at creating a socialist society have actually… worked.

        The best I think we can get is a well regulated market, but we need to actually ensure it’s well regulated and not just serving some people that gobbled up the competition so they could sit by idle and cozy.

        FWIW, I would also consider moving the oversight of federal law enforcement into its own federally elected office. i.e., we elect local sheriff’s, we should elect a “National Director of Law Enforcement” in charge of overseeing the FBI, IRS, TSA, US Marshall Service, etc.

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    I think that’s a pretty safe assumption. Fediverse tends to attract socially liberal types of people.

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      Note that the actual definition of the word “liberal” (which everyone except the United States uses) is a supporter of capitalism

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    I think most users on here lean left one way or another.

    I’m a conservative and that’s not popular here at all.

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      I’d like an honest discussion. What opinions do you hold that are conservative, which me as liberal leaning would disagree with you on?

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        I’m anti-abortion in most cases, though I do see room for exceptions. I’m for a small government, though living in Australia I have seen that there is a place for the government to provide certain services that tend towards monopolies or that are vital to national security, like utilities, defense, etc. I don’t agree with how we currently approach transgenderism: I believe it’s a mental illness with devastating effects on its sufferers and that surgery and drugs are a blunt way to try and deal with it. I’m anti-immigration on a mass-scale, and I think allowing manufacturing to be decimated by globalism was a big mistake that we shouldn’t have allowed.

        That’s just a few off the top of my head.

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    Definitely not anti-capitalist, just anti mega-corp. Good, healthy, regulated capitalism is the way to go.

    Communism is a joke.