• Andreas@feddit.dk
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    1 year ago

    Nah, that one can be left hidden. It’s a rambling and whiny mess with e-begging at the end. The Ploum.net article describing Embrace, Extend, Extinguish in practice with Google/XMPP and Microsoft/DOC file formats is the strongest argument against allowing corporations into open software communities.

    • cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me
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      1 year ago

      But how is Google/XMPP EEE? They joined the steering committee (solution here: don’t let them?) and slowed down development. They didn’t Extend. Then they decided to defederate which IMO didn’t hurt XMPP at all. The same people you had contact with before google federated were all still there. The way I see it, the XMPP committee was overly enthusiastic about letting google have some control, and paid for it.

      I seriously do not understand that article’s point. Are there any people who saw google federating, deleted their XMPP account and used Google messenger instead? In fact, the author even ends with “One thing is sure: if Google had not joined, XMPP would not be worse than it is today.” which is a pretty weak point to make, I know I enjoyed the time google was there, I stopped being able to contact people afterward.

      Can’t talk about the Word/OOXML thing as I have no first-hand experience of that issue.