• lightingnerd@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    We do have a term for that, it’s a little bit of a trigger-word for certain demographics, but the correct term is socialism.

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      1 year ago

      Can you define “socialism”? I’m a little lost on how any social media with a hosting provider or moderator can ever be socialism.

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        TL;DR The fediverse represents a socialist philosophy in that these servers are not all administered by a centralized authority, but by the individuals who put forth the labor to bring them into existence.

        Socialism doesn’t necessarily have a strict definition. There are some who assert such definitions, but take the work of Karl Marx, he wrote a criticism of capitalism in an analytical fashion. There’s Marx-influenced socialism, but to say “Marxism” is a little misleading, because it’s not like he proposed an exact plan for how to run an economy and government, rather he discussed the problems with how we assign value to labor.

        In general, and in my opinion, socialism as a broader philosophy is the idea that society should be constructed in such a way that it behaves in the interest of the people. In other-words, the goal is to design functional social systems that can ensure equal rights to a high quality of life, while also incentivizing and rewarding participation(I know many suggest that modern capitalism does this, but it doesn’t).

        So, in the case of social media and the fediverse, these federated networks are comparable to social systems that are operated by the public, governed by the public, and funded by the public. Therefore, see TL;DR.

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      From empirical evidence we learned that no way in socialism we can enjoy this kind of freedom of expression.

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        1 year ago

        Not entirely true, I sort of jest when I make hyperbolic statements about socialism being the anti-CEO. I personally believe in mixed economies that are well regulated. I know a lot of people dismiss the successes in Norway and neighboring countries on ideas of “cultural/racial homogeneity” among other things, but they do quite well with a mixed economies.

        In mixed economies, you have both the right and incentive to start a small to medium sized business; and if you become too big and ubiquitous, the government can step-in to help govern your company.

        It’s not a perfect solution (I’m not sure if that exists), but I think it’s one of the best models we have–and a lot of the governing principles are derived from socialist criticisms of unregulated capitalism. Especially in the US I think we’d benefit from this sort of economic structure; but in-order for that to happen in a meaningful and positive way for the public, we will need electoral reform.