A tankie is someone who supports authoritarian communism (I believe the term originated from using tanks to suppress protests)
Here’s a post showing that the main instance of Lemmy (hosted by the main 2 Lemmy devs) removes any negative posts about the Chinese or Russian governments for “orientalism”: https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5784
Nothing wrong per se with communism itself, it just tends to be extremely unstable and quickly turns to authoritarianism, I don’t think it’s ever worked for any nation in history so far.
The defending of Uyghur genocides, and the defending of the CCP and Russian government is really concerning though. Good thing this platform is federated.
libretro has a similar problem, it’s developed by a team of transphobic, homophobic, racist Russian apologists who border on Nazism. I don’t know what attracts these people to FOSS development.
the implication that communists are transphobic or homophobic or nazis is nonsense. i am trans and live in a place not good to trans people (like most places) the communists are my only allies.
the modern russian state is not the soviet union, it is who america put in charge after creating a situation that led to millions of deaths.
the modern russian state is not the soviet union, it is who america put in charge after creating a situation that led to millions of deaths.
The fact that you can believe this narrative literally spawned by the people who currently control and siphon away 50% or more of Russia’s entire GDP into foreign bank accounts under the whip of Vladimir “East German KGB-operative” Putin is pretty astounding.
Because it isn’t logical, because it is all a mess. Yet because Russia claims Soviet glory and tankies actively shows the current regime reverence as if Putin was a General Secretary, it is rather hard to actually make a distinction between the current authoritarian regime and the one of the Soviets - the fact of the matter is that Russian political culture whether royalist, communist or capitalist doesn’t change.
Authoritarian communism isn’t a real thing. No country has ever been communist materially in the first place (and none have ever claimed to be), so what we are dealing with is an “authoritarian” socialist nation. Authority is not a unilateral concept; there is no authority “in itself” but authority for different ends and directed by different groups. In class society, authority is largely expressed by the dictatorship of a certain class, so the term “authoritarianism” is meaningless (rule by authority? which form of it?). It is well known that the CPC and the Chinese government have the vast support of the people [https://ash.harvard.edu/publications/understanding-ccp-resilience-surveying-chinese-public-opinion-through-time] due to land reform and poverty alleviation alongside mass line influence throughout government positions.
“Using tanks to suppress protests” which events are you referring to?
In regards to Uyghurs, read this, and I mean seriously read it and come up with a response or shut up: https://xinjiangahr.carrd.co/
A tankie is someone who supports authoritarian communism (I believe the term originated from using tanks to suppress protests)
Here’s a post showing that the main instance of Lemmy (hosted by the main 2 Lemmy devs) removes any negative posts about the Chinese or Russian governments for “orientalism”: https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5784
In the comments of that post, you can find one of the devs borderline defending what China is doing to the Uyghurs: https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/comment/5950
That same dev has a github repo called “essays on communism”: https://github.com/dessalines/essays
I’m pretty sure both of the devs’ profile pictures are Fidel Castro too
Aight fair enough, that’s pretty concerning.
Nothing wrong per se with communism itself, it just tends to be extremely unstable and quickly turns to authoritarianism, I don’t think it’s ever worked for any nation in history so far.
The defending of Uyghur genocides, and the defending of the CCP and Russian government is really concerning though. Good thing this platform is federated.
libretro has a similar problem, it’s developed by a team of transphobic, homophobic, racist Russian apologists who border on Nazism. I don’t know what attracts these people to FOSS development.
the implication that communists are transphobic or homophobic or nazis is nonsense. i am trans and live in a place not good to trans people (like most places) the communists are my only allies.
the modern russian state is not the soviet union, it is who america put in charge after creating a situation that led to millions of deaths.
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The fact that you can believe this narrative literally spawned by the people who currently control and siphon away 50% or more of Russia’s entire GDP into foreign bank accounts under the whip of Vladimir “East German KGB-operative” Putin is pretty astounding.
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Your outrage is completely misguided.
Say Russia was trying to “exterminate gay people”: it is a capitalist country.
You can’t present the deeds of capitalists as evidence of communist wrongdoing.
…it would great if the tankies could understand that fact to be case in any other context when discussing Russia, but they don’t, so we won’t.
Not a fan of that logic
Because it isn’t logical, because it is all a mess. Yet because Russia claims Soviet glory and tankies actively shows the current regime reverence as if Putin was a General Secretary, it is rather hard to actually make a distinction between the current authoritarian regime and the one of the Soviets - the fact of the matter is that Russian political culture whether royalist, communist or capitalist doesn’t change.
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Hey, just fyi, there are different branches of communism. The most popular ones vehemently oppose Russia, China, and North Korea.
u/CommunistLady is part of the delusional few who are pro-China, but please don’t attack communists as a whole because of the loud idiots.
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Authoritarian communism isn’t a real thing. No country has ever been communist materially in the first place (and none have ever claimed to be), so what we are dealing with is an “authoritarian” socialist nation. Authority is not a unilateral concept; there is no authority “in itself” but authority for different ends and directed by different groups. In class society, authority is largely expressed by the dictatorship of a certain class, so the term “authoritarianism” is meaningless (rule by authority? which form of it?). It is well known that the CPC and the Chinese government have the vast support of the people [https://ash.harvard.edu/publications/understanding-ccp-resilience-surveying-chinese-public-opinion-through-time] due to land reform and poverty alleviation alongside mass line influence throughout government positions.
“Using tanks to suppress protests” which events are you referring to?
In regards to Uyghurs, read this, and I mean seriously read it and come up with a response or shut up: https://xinjiangahr.carrd.co/