• Lojcs@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    I honestly can’t tell if this is satire. Do you really think ‘choosing’ an unrelated empty track is some kind of moral high ground?

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      15 hours ago

      Liberals will parrot leftist critique of conservatives having no media literacy and then unironically comment shit like this

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        13 hours ago

        Can communists not communicate without resorting to wisecracks, gotchas and meme images? Why is commenting on hexbear always such an emotional burden?

        Sorry for not being in the same frequency as you but I genuinely can’t tell if this is critisizing the holier than thou attitudes in hexbear or supporting it. I think it’s quite unfair to reduce that to media illiteracy.

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          7 hours ago

          You’re in a meme comm talking down to op, while asking stupid questions. Why do you think you deserve a rigorous response?

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            5 hours ago

            Because I keep deluding myself every couple months into thinking I can have a normal fucking conversion with someone from this instance if I just walk on egshells. I have not talked down to anyone or attacked anyone, I haven’t even tried to argue against views I disagree with. All I was trying to do is learn if this post was genuine or satirizing what is depicted. In actually about to cry about this. Why are you so rude

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              5 hours ago

              Why are you so rude

              I am responding in kind. Cry about it.

              Because I keep deluding myself every couple months into thinking I can have a normal fucking conversion with someone from this instance if I just walk on egshells.

              Lol you’re real shit at that. Maybe stop wearing black leather boots if you’re gonna stomp on eggshells.

              I have not talked down to anyone

              Okay then I haven’t been rude to you. See how you still feel as if I’ve been rude? It’s almost like just saying things don’t make them true.

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                2 hours ago

                Calling my question stupid and that I don’t deserve an actual answer (justifying the other person quipping at ) isn’t rude? Your confrontational stance and underhandedly calling me a fascist isn’t rude? How would you rather have me ask if this meme is satire or geniune?

                Some part of me refuses to believe that a stranger on the internet (and a leftist at that) told me to cry. WTF is wrong with you

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          11 hours ago

          The point is that the bottommost track is only impossible because of liberal hitlerites going out of their way to compromise with evil at any opportunity.

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          11 hours ago

          Is there a reason you “dooted” me? I wasn’t trying to be passive aggressive or hostile. Just thought maybe you saw the wrong instance

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            11 hours ago

            Your answer was more run around still without an answer to the question I asked in the first place and I thought it was disingenuous to point out that question/discussion communities exist as an answer to me asking why the only reply to my honest question was a wisecrack

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              11 hours ago

              “I honestly can’t tell if this is satire. Do you really think ‘choosing’ an unrelated empty track is some kind of moral high ground?”

              It’s making fun of electoral politics. Satire in one way, but a sad truth in another. The moral high-ground has been us and anarchists organizing and trying to push for actual change.

              General hostility/passive-aggressiveness. The track isn’t “unrelated”, it’s a direct reference to voting third party and/or not voting at all in the election cycle that just happened. So, it’s unclear if you were specifically invalidating that on purpose or just didn’t understand it, hence the admittedly rude comment on media literacy. I perhaps thought you commented on the wrong instance, which I was mistaken.

              Us communists accurately predicted how this election would go, where Kamala has gone wrong and have been desperately pleading liberals to take a stand. Instead, we get treated to liberals going full posting “What if I reported my Trump neighbor’s family to ICE” on /r/unethicallifetips and berating us for not kowtowing their dying neoliberal empire and shifting right with them.

              But in general, you imitated a hostile attitude/tone. No one here has time to be belittled by liberals or centrists (not saying you are one but other user might have assumed) because that’s why; amongst many more important reasons; this space was created. I’ve been learning to try to not flame as much as I lost quite a bit of control in the past two days; watching most of the country embrace red-fascism openly and being surrounded by smoldering liberals from “both sides” will do that to you. It’s why us communists are so hostile, wise-cracking and jaded sometimes. Most of the time, we just don’t get listened to or actually taken seriously unless we directly threaten the interests of the ruling class. Then people get shot, like Fred Hampton. So yes, a general flavor of cynicism exists. It isn’t unjustified, though; if over-zealous at times.

              I broke it down as constructively and communicated with you as clearly as possible. If you’d have anything else you’d like to ask or know, feel free to ask. I don’t carry any hostility towards you; even if you feel otherwise.

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                49 minutes ago

                I’ve been learning to try to not flame as much as I lost quite a bit of control in the past two days

                You’re doing good, thanks for taking the time to write this and sorry for assuming you were being hostile too. OP posted the original version of this meme in he other thread, which apparently didn’t have a text bubble for the above guy. It makes a bit more sense that this didn’t originate here.

                I wasn’t trying to invalidate the meme referencing voting third party, it just seemed very much like a satirical mockery of doing so. I was confused why such a meme would be posted here, and if it wasn’t satire why op would make the bottom left guy’s speech so on the nose.

                This being a criticism of us electoral system works, but even with the added nazi its other message also works for me (“not participating in electoral system wouldn’t be morally superior on its own even if the electoral system didn’t do anything [and was in the hands of nazis]”). But I think I’m overthinking it and this was supposed to be a low overhead ‘look how ridiculous their memes about us are’ post.

                Expecting you or other communists here to spend all your mental bandwidth trying to be kind to strangers isn’t reasonable but I can’t but think if it would be better if this was a kinder place and didn’t get blocked by seemingly the most of lemmy users.

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          12 hours ago

          We perfectly can. AskChapo/AskLemmy has great resources for any questions you could ask a communist; as long as you ask in good faith. Lemmygrad is a more serious instance. You’re literally on “memes.” You’re gonna get wise-cracks, gotchas and memes lmao.

          Wise-cracks, gotchas and memes are the result of liberals on both sides consistently mocking and acting like the “adults in the room” while their neoliberal policies plunge America and more importantly, the rest of the world, deeper into poverty. Most of the time, these work in drawing attention from disenchanted leftists or ironic leftists. If not, it serves as a point to scratch a liberal and see how quickly they “drop the mask.”