Opiates aren’t even that great recreationally tbh. Like they feel good but they aren’t fun if that makes sense. You just kinda nod out while feeling good
Meanwhile weed, psychedelics, ketamine, etc. makes you feel good AND it gives you interesting effects or enhances reality
Definitely, they are in no way a party drug. Two people doing hard opiates together is just two people sitting in silence next to each other while they nod out in their own little worlds. That said, when you both run out and have to go through the exact same demented set of withdrawal symptoms together? That builds real solidarity, unironically, but there is no fun/excitement in getting high on opiates. In fact, they sort of kill my ability to have real fun because they are taking up all the mu opioid receptor spots that could otherwise be occupied by endogenous opioid peptides when I do something rewarding.
I can’t even enjoy music on opioids, which blows my mind. Not even on my Buprenorphine maintenance dose. Once withdrawals start I can listen to my favorite songs and feel things again. Not worth withdrawing over, but it definitely helps pass the time if I have to go there.
Opiates aren’t even that great recreationally tbh. Like they feel good but they aren’t fun if that makes sense. You just kinda nod out while feeling good
Meanwhile weed, psychedelics, ketamine, etc. makes you feel good AND it gives you interesting effects or enhances reality
Definitely, they are in no way a party drug. Two people doing hard opiates together is just two people sitting in silence next to each other while they nod out in their own little worlds. That said, when you both run out and have to go through the exact same demented set of withdrawal symptoms together? That builds real solidarity, unironically, but there is no fun/excitement in getting high on opiates. In fact, they sort of kill my ability to have real fun because they are taking up all the mu opioid receptor spots that could otherwise be occupied by endogenous opioid peptides when I do something rewarding.
I can’t even enjoy music on opioids, which blows my mind. Not even on my Buprenorphine maintenance dose. Once withdrawals start I can listen to my favorite songs and feel things again. Not worth withdrawing over, but it definitely helps pass the time if I have to go there.