• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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    Both France and Germany were saying the same thing most of the time in the last 20 years, yet they lied, as the last year and their sabotage of Minsk agreement shown. Macron is only saying this because people in France may soon scrap the false guillotine they have been carrying to protests sometimes and set up a real one.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Maybe France will have an actual revolution at this point and people create a socialist government that works in their interest. We are living through weeks when decades happen here.

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        Yeah but i don’t really see the protests turning into political strike, and i certainly don’t see a revolutionary socialist party there. I suspect it would be at most changing one neoliberal government for another one.

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          My understanding is that socialists have a strong presence in France, and the current wave of strikes is driven by trade unions. There is a political angle to it, people are sick of neoliberalsim. I guess we’ll see where things go.

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      Pretty much everyone except France and Germany sabotaged the Minsk agreement. Please don’t spread this kind of historical revisionism. And of course they had to adapt to the new reality after the Russian aggression in Ukraine.

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        Merkel admitted that the point of the Minsk agreement was to “buy time for Ukraine.” So, it appears Germany, at least, was never negotiating in good faith

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          Hollande admitted this as well. It’s basically an open secret at this point. People who keep pretending this isn’t so expose themselves as being completely morally bankrupt.

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        @yogthos Europe must resist pressure to become an America’s followers in general! Especially when it doesn’t serve European in first place.

        China is not stupid. Macron lost credibility here, for what it remains.

        It’s not even fine politics. jeez…

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            @yogthos really"

            -– He said “the great risk” Europe faces is that it “gets caught up in crises that are not ours, —

            This is actually what Russia/Ukraine is (not ours) and still, we are fueling the douche of Zelensky.

            His recent visit in Africa was about it.

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    Macron also argued that Europe had increased its dependency on the U.S. for weapons and energy and must now focus on boosting European defense industries.

    I’m not surprised by this, sabre rattling appears to be in full lift off in Europe. Anyone knows, if France just happens to have a strong military production capabilities?

    I believe that in the end Western Europe will do what’s best for their ruling capitalists, in my view the Covid crisis showed how split the EU is and that solidarity between nations exists mostly as a nice propaganda to sell the EU entity.

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      Anyone knows, if France just happens to have a strong military production capabilities?

      They are world’s second biggest arms exporter, so yeah.