Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”
“But I still want to get paid for it.”
Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”
“But I still want to get paid for it.”
pretty certain the majority of people doing art do not make a living off it yes. I’m not saying you can’t have sympathy with someone losing their job because of AI but like complain about the owners like normal don’t defend IP
Even if that were so (and that really depends on how wide your definitions are), does that invalidate the existence of everyone that does try to make a living with their art?
Ideologically absolute anti-IP stances with no considerations for ordinary artists that aren’t IP-hoarding corporations aren’t likely to win over those artists or the people that care about them. You complained about a relative lack of support for your positions here. I am explaining why that is so.
I’m not sure what you mean by “invalidate the existence”, I understand their plight and I’m sorry the tech will end up causing a lot of poor people pain but I think again that any complaints on a communist website that defend IP should be pushed back on. My point is that such arguments are very short sighted, in trying to defend small artists in this way they entrench IP which will be forever more helpful to IP-hoarding corporations
Again. It isn’t just about IP. As @Nakoichi@hexbear.net has already pointed out, people’s labor has been stolen and continues to be stolen. If you can’t accept that or acknowledge that, you’re floating on a cloud of liberal privilege and it’s up to you to come down from it.
I don’t think this is accurate. stealing their labor would be as if I told someone I would pay them for their time to commission me a picture and then scammed them in some way, or if I literally stole a physical painting you were looking to sell, or if I was a business owner committing wage theft. like, do you actually think I’m stealing the artist’s labor when I pirate something?
I totally agree. It’s frustrating that’s it’s so hard to have a conversation about this here.
it is but I don’t think it’s worth it to keep arguing so I’m just gonna let it go
Again, you’re ignoring the material reality of currently existing (and recently forcibly retired) artists who aren’t “IP” hogs and whose economic precarity has worsened because of treat printers as they are being applied, now, in our current material reality. If you think the only meaningful way to steal art is to physically carry off a painting, I really don’t have anything else to say to you.
I had a big paragraph typed up but I’m tired of the argument too so I’m gonna drop it here
I doubt it’d convince me, if it’s just more of the same. Your ideological fundamentalism dismisses and outright ignores too many working class people and I doubt that a paragraph more of that would help.
more lib shit
hey if you don’t want to argue how about you stop following the thread and being lazy like this
you say in your other comment that people are defending IP hoarding by defending people on the small scale, but right here you do the exact same thing in reverse - using the morality of piracy on the large scale in order to win an argument grounded in the small scale
people are saying ‘small artists that eke by are getting screwed out of compensation for their labour’ and you’re chiming in with ‘why are you trying to stop me from pirating from Marvel?’
you’re either purposefully being obtuse about this, or you genuinely are so focused on validating your own piracy that you’re talking right past the conversation entirely