He used the term “tankie” unironically… It’s over

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    By that logic, you shouldn’t support sending money, guns, and bombs to Ukraine because they’re Nazis

    Doesn’t matter how many Nazis there are, you don’t give them anything

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    All of Europe including Russia has an underground Nazi problem, Ukraine on the other hand is an open Nazi state, quite a difference

    Doesn’t take a scholar of fascism to figure this shit out, but libs love playing on legendary mode

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      I think they have some thoughts on russia’s ethnic composition, there were completely bonkers interviews when ukraine first tried to attack with them. So they see ukraine as true slavic aryan state, and russia as corrupted by those non-russians shrug-outta-hecks russia took tartars in like 1500s something, they are just nuts to want slavic state

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    Even if this assumption was 100% true, it still makes sense to trust Russian communists to do their part and practice revolutionary defeatism, while we practice revolutionary defeatism here. We can’t stop Russian reactionaries from the west, and Russians can’t stop western reactionaries by themselves either; so the only thing you can do is not support western reactionaries. It’s not that hard.

    Edit: just to clarify I don’t actually think Russians should practice revolutionary defeatism because the nature of the SMO is not imperialist, but I’m just saying that even if you supposed that it was, the action that western leftists ought to take remains the same.

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I think Russia and Ukraine are both bad shrug-outta-hecks

    Ukraine is probably more fascist than Russia is but that honestly barely matters to me. I just think it would be very bad for the world if the Great Satan managed to defeat and subjugate Russia using Ukraine as a proxy.

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    By “just based off popukation” does he just mean Russia has 20x the people and he assumed even distribution.

    Cool, go ahead and show me the russian unit that’s explicitly neo Nazi and then about a half dozens pictures of Russian soldiers posing with nazi insignia and we can start seriously having this discussion.

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      By “just based off popukation” does he just mean Russia has 20x the people

      by 20x the population he means he’s a spiritual cracker and has never looked at a globe, population statistics, or ethnic distributions

      all mayo countries are empty

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      I don’t know how you come to any conclusion about “Both sides have nazis” other than “Let them kill each other.” Obviously civilians are getting caught in between (remember early in the war a bunch of Ukrainian nazis went on a murder spree against Roma instead of helping fight Russians?) which is why the war needs to stop.

      But if some nazis kill some other nazis because they can’t decide who is whiter and less Slavic than the other, that’s a good thing lmao