[I originally posted this in chapotraphouse, but it was deleted for being “pro-cop” even though that very much wasn’t the case. (I believe PSL was actually involved in organizing the protest if I’m not mistaken.) The mod that deleted it openly broke the sectarian rule too.]

Been seeing a lot of people hating on what the protest marshals did during the pro-Gaza protests at the DNC and I feel they definitely did the right thing. Instigating stuff like going up against the cops under the guise of “revolutionary” action just gets a lot of people arrested and doesn’t accomplish anything.

EDIT: Users who were present at the protests have said, counter to what is claimed in the screenshot, that the protest marshals did NOT call for the police. Thank you for clearing this up, comrades!

  • OpenDown@hexbear.netEnglish
    4·
    3 months ago

    Kettling and restricting the movement of protesters in the direct line of site of kkkops does help them ID you, and shit like this would be truly unacceptable to a marshal trying to keep comrades safe

      • MarxMadnessEnglish
        9·
        3 months ago

        We’re also equating “hey don’t fight the cops at our peaceful protest” to kettling, now.

      • OpenDown@hexbear.netEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        Helping the cops id people is not an incorrect statement though? They’re helping the cops contain the protest, letting them stand back and do their job where theyre inevitably IDing people especially the people the marshalls are physically singling out for doing “bad protesting”??? Shows a lot you care more about the technical definition of ID-ing than the overall evidence towards collaboration with fascist cops

        • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          9·
          3 months ago

          Shows a lot you care more about the technical definition of ID-ing than the overall evidence towards collaboration with fascist cops

          Yeah, I’ll call out fedjacketing when I see it. If you disagree with the tactics you can just say so rather than trying to smear people

          • OpenDown@hexbear.netEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            It’s not smearing, I’m calling out individual actions that are collaborative with cops. I genuinely believe it’s because americans are generally fascists with more sympathy towards cops and peace keepers than the victims of genocide and those that know we need to do much more to stop it. Also, as a movement with a history of infiltration and co-optation when did you get the idea in your head that fedjacketing is a bad thing?

              • OpenDown@hexbear.netEnglish
                1·
                3 months ago

                The counterproductive tactic is collaboration with the police. You’re making the same argument people make when we say America is bad and they say “You’re saying everything America does is bad, like the meme we shouldn’t take seriously”. There’s no essence to my comment that makes it not worthy of being taken seriously, I’m much more worried if we’re not taking it seriously even if it isn’t true we need to be critical not dismissing anything outright because of the way it sounds

                  • OpenDown@hexbear.netEnglish
                    1·
                    3 months ago

                    They said that they were benefited from the internal policing and personally thanked them for working with them? Like… I don’t even know what you’re trying to say that the police are lying to syke us on the marshals? That’s beyond reason, I really don’t think I can convince you