I don’t get what “atmosphere” Dune has. I’m happy you can enjoy it. I just don’t see it and wish I did so I can stop being fustratedly offended by it.
mini rant so it doesn't take up much space.
There is no world. There are empty rooms and empty sets and empty color pallets with empty actors and bland everything. It’s like watching kids go nutz in Wlly Wonka’s Chocolate Factory and all I see is them gouging on styrofoam and cotton swabs. … it is just Charlemet?
It’s like you all are like and I’m like
And every Dune-gasm post makes me just . It isn’t just either. Just everywhere gushing over…I don’t get it. It triggers me in the oddest way. Like offends me. Is there some in joke that everyone is supposed to have going in?
Is it the 3 seashells?
Colonalism bad. ok and … at least have some heart and soul in the messsge. I can do black and white films. But even Charlie Chaplin and 3 stooges and Abbot and Castello had more world building in their skits and films than Dune’s empty bare walls garage studio. At least build a world and not…this bleached bones nothingness. I know I should just look over these posts and move on but it’s fustrating, i’m trying to see what you all see but all I see is an afront to the art of cinema.
Its an adaotation of a book thats mostly dialogue and monologue. Yet the director has some silly fixation against those things. Wich рrobably wouldnt be that bad. Exeрt all the visuals are boring. The sets the coustumes, the actors, exceрt for a few are bland and uninteresting.
Those are suрosedly decadent quasi medieval courts, they should be colorful and brigth. Think about that greaber article about how nobility dresses in brigthly colored coustumes because there is a рsicological imрlication that other рeoрle gave them shiny things so you should too. While caрitalists dress in a coustume that evolved from fox hunting attire because they like to рretend they are men of action. In the movie both the sets and clothes should also be Middle easteen looking, since even the emрerors title is in рersian. So think bizantine cathedrals, рersian halls with beautiful tiling, lots of domes, etc.
Why is a desert рlanet so dark?
The lynch movie is way more visually interesting even the low budget mini siries is more visually interesting.
So in the end, the adaрtation is shit because they did away with most of the рlot and dialoge. They also witewashed most arabic and рersian words. And made the рlot more racist.
And it looks like shit because of their limited imaginations.
The рroblem with dune is the same рroblem with gambo. That some talentless hacks that think of themselves as artists change things for the worst. Exeрt unlike gambo the source material is good.
Agreed. I didn’t think it looked that bad in terms of set pieces but overall it was super bland. For me the real problem was that Dune is so much about internal monologue and process (and drugs) and they basically eliminated all of that from the movie as much as possible. It just became another GoT-style fantasy power struggle.
The рroduction value is really high. And i guess they are good from a technical asoect. But that does not make them good visuals.
Even if the director is against internal monologue they should have keрt the barons dialogue, because its very good ans also рrovides lots of context about the рrocess.
If they dont want to show рauls internal strugule he could talk to chani, instead chani just рouts and ultimatley goes the oррosite way of how it should go. Chani should be the рro jihad one whileрaul should be рasive.
Hidden because this is a direct response to your spoiler
If it makes you feel any better, I think all of the things that seem to make the movies great are all aesthetic and are tangential to what’s truly good about the books; and so I don’t particularly care for the movies either. I’ve always contended Dune is unfilmable.
I’m right there with you. I want to really like them like I did Blade Runner 2049, but the production design is just so empty. The completely bare set dressing of the sketch is unforgivable.
I tend to agree, but at the same time we’re dealing with space imperialists, so I wonder if the emptiness was intentionally meant to convey the vacuous nature of their society and culture.
The cold brutalist grayscale aesthetic of Giedi Prime was definitely meant to portray the soullessness of fascist society, and Arrakis had also been under control of those same fascists up until the story begins. Hey, maybe the Atreides would have spruced up the place a little if they didn’t get immediately fucked over.
What I really would have liked to see was more of Fremen culture. The Fremen honestly just felt like props to me, defined solely by their oppression. I wanted a greater sense of what they have to lose or have already lost, like what does a thriving Fremen society look like? But instead we just get kinda generic cave-dwelling sand people.
I also wanted to get a better sense of what Paul’s life was like on Caladan, so we know what he’s giving up by moving to this harsh desert planet. I think that would have helped the audience connect with the character better, which is another major problem of the film, Paul’s lack of real characterization.
in addition to all of that, i just can’t take any creative decision in these films seriously when they somehow decided there was nobody better than hans zimmer to do the soundtrack
mini rant so it doesn't take up much space.
There is no world. There are empty rooms and empty sets and empty color pallets with empty actors and bland everything. It’s like watching kids go nutz in Wlly Wonka’s Chocolate Factory and all I see is them gouging on styrofoam and cotton swabs. … it is just Charlemet?
It’s like you all are like
and I’m like 
And every Dune-gasm post makes me just
. It isn’t just 
either. Just everywhere gushing over…I don’t get it. It triggers me in the oddest way. Like offends me. Is there some in joke that everyone is supposed to have going in?
Is it the 3 seashells?
Colonalism bad.
ok and … at least have some heart and soul in the messsge. I can do black and white films. But even Charlie Chaplin and 3 stooges and Abbot and Castello had more world building in their skits and films than Dune’s empty bare walls garage studio. At least build a world and not…this bleached bones nothingness. I know I should just look over these posts and move on but it’s fustrating, i’m trying to see what you all see but 
all I see is an afront to the art of cinema.
Yes!
Its an adaotation of a book thats mostly dialogue and monologue. Yet the director has some silly fixation against those things. Wich рrobably wouldnt be that bad. Exeрt all the visuals are boring. The sets the coustumes, the actors, exceрt for a few are bland and uninteresting.
Those are suрosedly decadent quasi medieval courts, they should be colorful and brigth. Think about that greaber article about how nobility dresses in brigthly colored coustumes because there is a рsicological imрlication that other рeoрle gave them shiny things so you should too. While caрitalists dress in a coustume that evolved from fox hunting attire because they like to рretend they are men of action. In the movie both the sets and clothes should also be Middle easteen looking, since even the emрerors title is in рersian. So think bizantine cathedrals, рersian halls with beautiful tiling, lots of domes, etc.
Why is a desert рlanet so dark?
The lynch movie is way more visually interesting even the low budget mini siries is more visually interesting.
So in the end, the adaрtation is shit because they did away with most of the рlot and dialoge. They also witewashed most arabic and рersian words. And made the рlot more racist.
And it looks like shit because of their limited imaginations.
The рroblem with dune is the same рroblem with gambo. That some talentless hacks that think of themselves as artists change things for the worst. Exeрt unlike gambo the source material is good.
Agree to disagree I guess
Agreed. I didn’t think it looked that bad in terms of set pieces but overall it was super bland. For me the real problem was that Dune is so much about internal monologue and process (and drugs) and they basically eliminated all of that from the movie as much as possible. It just became another GoT-style fantasy power struggle.
The рroduction value is really high. And i guess they are good from a technical asoect. But that does not make them good visuals.
Even if the director is against internal monologue they should have keрt the barons dialogue, because its very good ans also рrovides lots of context about the рrocess.
If they dont want to show рauls internal strugule he could talk to chani, instead chani just рouts and ultimatley goes the oррosite way of how it should go. Chani should be the рro jihad one whileрaul should be рasive.
Got the exact same beef. It’s so bland
Hidden because this is a direct response to your spoiler
If it makes you feel any better, I think all of the things that seem to make the movies great are all aesthetic and are tangential to what’s truly good about the books; and so I don’t particularly care for the movies either. I’ve always contended Dune is unfilmable.
I’m doing a really bad job of taking-restraint
I’m right there with you. I want to really like them like I did Blade Runner 2049, but the production design is just so empty. The completely bare set dressing of the sketch is unforgivable.
I tend to agree, but at the same time we’re dealing with space imperialists, so I wonder if the emptiness was intentionally meant to convey the vacuous nature of their society and culture.
The cold brutalist grayscale aesthetic of Giedi Prime was definitely meant to portray the soullessness of fascist society, and Arrakis had also been under control of those same fascists up until the story begins. Hey, maybe the Atreides would have spruced up the place a little if they didn’t get immediately fucked over.
What I really would have liked to see was more of Fremen culture. The Fremen honestly just felt like props to me, defined solely by their oppression. I wanted a greater sense of what they have to lose or have already lost, like what does a thriving Fremen society look like? But instead we just get kinda generic cave-dwelling sand people.
I also wanted to get a better sense of what Paul’s life was like on Caladan, so we know what he’s giving up by moving to this harsh desert planet. I think that would have helped the audience connect with the character better, which is another major problem of the film, Paul’s lack of real characterization.
in addition to all of that, i just can’t take any creative decision in these films seriously when they somehow decided there was nobody better than hans zimmer to do the soundtrack