TL;DR Discord loves to present itself as a company run by a few gamers just like you. The service aggressively advertises itself as “for gamers” with the hope that this “reputation” alone will propel Discord to the top. This has worked really well. The Discord team has refused, however, on multiple occasions to take certain steps to protect their userbase, described in more detail above such as adoption of E2E encryption or going open source. Instead, the Discord team states clearly in their privacy policy that they will gladly hoard a plethora of data about their users indefinitely, loosely claiming to only delete it when its no longer needed. The data they collect and store includes (but is not limited to) full chat logs, all chat media, a list of who you chat with, email address, IP address, device ID, behavioral analysis, activity tracking on the service, pulling info from social media accounts you link, and much more as stated above and in their Privacy Policy. Discord shares this same data with all of its partners, affiliates, agents, and “Related Companies” while lazily instructing you to check their privacy policy to find out what happened to your information, as its no longer any concern to Discord. In addition, Discord goes further to say “Developers using our SDK or API will have access to their end users’ information, including message content, message metadata, and voice metadata”. Their very vague “information” wording allows Discord to send whatever they please while, of course, leaving it up to you to go check their privacy policy and figure out just where and to who Discord sloppily throws your data around. Discord continues to show little to no progress or effort in considering open source code, strong end-to-end encryption adoption, or even something as simple as allowing the deletion of an old account. It is important to note that while Discord allows the “deactivation” of an account, their support team will happily inform you that they do not delete your data and your account cannot be deleted. This data is again stored for an indefinite period of time.

Discord is proprietary spyware. Using it means endorsing and legitimizing it.

Discord relies on its reputation to lure its victims. Despite just starting out as a way for freeze-gamer to mingle in chatrooms and VoIP rooms, Discord has now expanded to any sort of purpose, even extending to schools where students will use Discord for clubs as well as online projects where communication is done over the platform.

The reliance on Discord is dangerous. Any thing you type or do in this program is recorded for the highest bidder (that be your government or private data brokers). The interface and UX is designed to keep you in the app for as long as possible.

There’s no way to “smartly” or “responsibly” use Discord. One way or another, Discord will extract value from you. It’s not just about you, but about everyone who uses the platform.

Solutions

There are no “alternatives” to Discord. I’m not going to try to fool you by saying there’s a magic bullet to defeat Discord’s presence in western society (other than socialism and gamer-gulag). But that doesn’t mean there aren’t ways to help.

  • Matrix: A decentralized messaging protocol. It supports video conferencing on its main instance as well as support for the Discord “Server” functionality. Easiest solution for a drop-in replacement.

  • IRC: The one that came before Discord, community networks can be used if you need to communicate and is just as secure as Discord (public chat rooms with zero end-to-end encryption besides TLS)

  • GNU Jami: If there was a magic bullet, this would be it. Completely decentralized, peer-to-peer messaging network that is device based. It is a GNU package, possibly the most guarantee for freedom you can get in this world. The team is small, but if you need somewhere to host your leftist activities that will require more than a court order (or a simple bribe) to de-anonymize by state and non-state (those funded by other states) actors then this is it.

Conclusion

This is a post for self crit. If the service is free of charge, then you’re the product. Any leftist should take steps to eliminate their dependency on Discord and proprietary messaging programs. Also any leftist should spread this message and inform others about the risks of using proprietary software.

We should also take Discord as a lesson in how to identify the dangers of proprietary programs and why it could make us vulnerable to abuse (which as we know in a capitalist society, is coming one way or the other). Discord isn’t the lone offender, but an example of how nonfree software will always pose a threat to a free and democratic society and only benefits the bourgeoisie.

Let this be the last thing I have to say about this accursed program

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    All the people who connect in my trans group specifically for this shitty state of Florida are on Discord. I’d love to stop using it entirely, but I honestly don’t have the capacity to sacrifice that, especially since the group has done me a lot of good since I’ve been there.

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      There’s no easy solution (which I would love to give) but I would still encourage trying to work with your group to see if there is a possibility of moving off Discord and onto something like Matrix. There are things like Matrix bridges which can pass along messages from both Discord and matrix to each other.

      I’m extra afraid for queer and trans people since Discord is all but a State Department asset. I just know Discord will be first in line when Florida or any other US state starts trying to track down and ID trans people and punish them for even existing in online spaces. Deprogramming from Discord is an investment to keep people safe.

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      Some friends of mine are organizing their workplace, and it’s all on discord. I talked to them about it and seems like it was hard enough to get people to stop using the COMPANY SLACK, so like… fuck me I guess we can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good in this case.

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        yes, if they’re already entrenched using discord and it isn’t presenting immediate risks, this is probably true. The takeaway is get in early and don’t let it get entrenched. Even if everyone already has it or whatever, its still the easiest time you’re going to be able to move by an order of magnitude. I moved all my friends to Signal (and later was like “ah shit wish we’d gone with matrix or something”, but still an improvement) from google hangouts chats, just by basically getting buy in from one or two other