• 11092001 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    Just gotta not watch the YouTube vid and say no. Also, the best anime is Revolutionary Girl Utena by a long shot for me.

    Also hot take, I like the 2003 version better despite being more of a mess. It was a lot more character driven for the brothers, the villains were better thematically, more Gothic, beats the shit out of Ed like the dumb 13 year kid reddit atheist he is with thermodynamics lol.

    Quip, 2003 was more about brotherhood than fatherhood(fma: brotherhood), end quip. The broader and general brotherhood theme of the newer version was too saccharine for me honestly.

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      I liked the 2003 version too. Dante’s a better villain than Father, and Shamballah is a great refutation, reconciliation, and resolution of the Elric brothers myopic pursuit of a magical solution to their crime of desecrating their mother by playing God.

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        Okay, now it’s getting back to me. The plot points linger longer like the dead mother instead of being ‘well that happened’ that it ended up being in brotherhood. Scar is proven more right in his fight against the genocidal state in 2003 I think. Or somehow the 2003 version did the same thing with Scar as brotherhood despite having another massacre that is an echo of the genocide. Been awhile since I watch the 2003 version.

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          It’s worth a slow rewatch. Dameon Clarke as voice actor for Scar is a better Scar.

          Scar’s last act was to save Alphonse from being transformed into combustible metal and grant the Elric brothers their wish: The Philosopher’s Stone.
          The last twelve episodes of the 2003 anime were really well written.

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            Oh and the Philosopher’s Stone element also was important throughout the 2003 show too. The old show was so tight and focus with the starting elements and premise besides with some stuff dragging it down, needing new characters to fill in despite it making great use of the characters we start with.

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              Roy’s resolution in Shamballah is better than FMAB’s ending for Roy. Cursed with the memories and grief of his war crimes, he commits a sort of intellectual suicide by sequestering himself in a remote snowy region as an outpost guard. (A huge step down from Brigadier General). Even his revenge against Bradley for Hughes death was done out of a sense of honor and guilt rather than genocidal fury against Envy.

              While Bradley’s death had more showmanship and climactic presentation in FMAB, the 2003 version is much more satisfying and vindicating of Roy and the general themes of that show with Bradley’s death in that version.

              The State (called Amestris in FMAB) is also dissolved from the military dictatorship under Bradley and back into a parliamentary democracy.

              I didn’t like the presentation that FMAB Roy’s aspiration of becoming a compassionate Fuhrer as a way of resolving Amestris’s issues and prefer the systemic rehabilitation of the state and nation in the 2003 version.

              They’re both equally good but despite having the same name and story - up to a certain point - they’re completely different the way apple cider is to water with an apple slice in it is.