• LoveSausage@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    To me this shows the problem with anarchism. It’s a reason anarchism is the somewhat acceptable protestation. In the mean time others are working on actually takeover use the No1 weapon avvailable, the state. /Anarchist in the street, ML in the sheets

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      The state is a corrupting force. It’s using the ring to fight Sauron. You can use it at times, but to seize it or accept its right to exist even temporarily gives room for those interested in power to seize your movement and they will never let go. Add in power corrupting even the good and you’ve got problems brewing.

      We will be as the weeds. And we will fill the holes an unjust society leaves, cracking the concrete and overrunning their manicured lawns. A decentralized movement cannot be extinguished without removing the conditions that allow it to thrive. It cannot be subverted or taken over. It has its weaknesses, but I don’t trust the people’s stick to beat my neighbors either.

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        If I was in Middle Earth, I totally would have used the Ring against Sauron.

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          Someone didn’t understand the message of LotR…

          You’d start thinking you’re using the ring against Sauron, but it would corrupt you. That’s the whole things with Boromir and Feromir in the stories. They were both tempted to use the ring for good, but only Feromir was strong enough to resist it and let it go.

          Edit: not that this is relavent at all to the larger conversation here. Tolkien was very conservative, though he was happy with people taking new lessons he didn’t intend from his works.

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        Making my point. That’s the think that’s creates smelly hippies . The opposite is what actually create socialist states. . The people’s stick will beat deadbeats and I’m happy with that. Liberalism is perhaps the ideology you are looking for?