What makes Lemmy part of the Fediverse? Can one follow a Lemmy community from say a Mastodon account and receive post updates from the Lemmy Community when someone posts to the community they are following?
@creatinglake Yep, you can. I used to follow !linux from my Mastodon account. Now I’m commenting from my Friendica account!
I will say though, following Lemmy via Mastodon isn’t ideal. No downvotes, link posts mess up the “copy link to post” feature, all the replies are forced into your timeline as boosts, and you can’t actually post to the forums (only reply) because there are no post titles.
Aah you’re going to make me test out a frendica account now :D I’ve only seen how it works from mastodon, which is limited but usable…
Have never got it working from my pleroma instance, but that just may be my lack of sysadmin skills.
@_ed You should! It has an excess of features - the thread display and post titles are the ones that make it a lot easier to interact with Lemmy, though I’m still not sure I can make link posts; but also recommended users, federation with Diaspora, following RSS feeds, dislikes, quote re-shares, post formatting, and a bunch more.
It’s dated in some ways, like the signup process and some clunky aspects of the UI. But it might be better than Mastodon once you get the hang of it.
perhaps those issues could be addressed.
@creatinglake
I hope they will be, with the Fediverse gaining attention that means all the platforms might gain new developers to improve on them.
I hear ya. I am wondering if what we ultimately want is some independent Fediverse account that we an use to join any “space” like a Lemmy Community as well as each having a Feverse Feed/Inbox. Perhaps we could get notifications from the Lemmy Community posts via that feed, with a brief decryption/post about the activity. One could then either do a simple reply to the post or click on that descrition/post to open the Lemmy community (or some other Fediverse space) in a new tab to access all of the rich functionality. Does this make sense?
@creatinglake I’m not entirely sure what you mean, but I get the theory - you’re saying it should require only one account to use any service in the fediverse. I don’t think that’s compatible with the way ActivityPub is structured now - although it would certainly help if every server used the standard client-to-server protocol, rather than a dozen variants on Mastodon’s - but a different standard might be able to make that work. It would have a lot of implications for security, though.
@creatinglake I guess it does. Otherwise how could I reply? :D
I have a separate Lemmy account and had no idea that anyone was replying here on Lemmy until I randomly came back to the tab.
Can someone from a Mastodon account then reply to the Lemmy post, via Mastodon, and have that comment show up in the community space?
@creatinglake That’s something I don’t get. What is the point of Lemmy if is it connected like this? Doesn’t it make Lemmy a Mastodon client somehow?
what lemmy gives you: 1/ communities where news are aggregated on themes, that you can follow (also from mastodon) 2/ elaborate threading system for the replies 3/ up/down votes for the news and the comments 4/ views based on the above, allowing to look only at the new, the hot, the commented, etc.
it’s not competition. it’s cooperation and complementarity <3
@JoeBidet Not complaining, just trying to understand :).
But then do Mastodon toots appear on Lemmy? Or is it only Lemmy “posts” appearing on Mastodon?
Also how is the threading system more advanced on Lemmy? It’s just a different UI for the same tree of answers, isn’t it?
Not really. Very simply, Lemmy is made to follow groups while Mastodon follows users. Peertube (YouTube alternative) shares videos in playlists (groups) so they’re simple to follow from Lemmy. When friendica (Facebook style) users posts to forums (groups) its basically the same as Lemmy does, but with a different interface. They’re all interoperable since they use the group function.
@coldhotman I see… so it’s a bit like bridges between e.g. Matrix and IRC, right?
Actually it’s apparently not completely interoperable: opening the lemmy link on my browser, I see an answer (from Friendica) that I can’t seem to see from Mastodon…
Like bridges, in the way they connect services yes. Unlike bridges, they don’t need to translate between different protocols - its all ActivityPub.
Lemmy operates on the group standard, Friendica fully supports it. Mastodon don’t. I suspect that’s related to why you can’t see it on some platforms.
Mastodon operates on single user standard, so we can’t subscribe to individual users on Lemmy.
Friendica has it right, they support both!
@coldhotman @jonasvautherin wow thanks for that review I’m going to check that out
@jonasvautherin @creatinglake Mastodon doesn’t do everything that a platform connected to the Fediverse can do; Lemmy has a lot of features Mastodon doesn’t, and Mastodon has a lot of features Lemmy doesn’t. For example, as far as I know Mastodon users can’t create original posts to Lemmy communities, nor downvote posts on the site.
The beauty of the Fediverse is that you can create different platforms for different purposes - Twitter-like microblogs, Reddit-like link forums, photo sharing, video sharing… if you have an account on one of them, that perhaps represents your preferred set of features, you can still keep up with activity on the others using their analogous features. And as Joe Bidet said while I was typing this: it’s about cooperation not competition.
Exactly–and what I am suggesting is that it would be awesome to have one Fediverse account and one Fediverse feed do collect streams from all of the fediverse spaces we engage with…so we could aggregate posts/notifications from Mastodon, Pixelfed, and Lemmy communities (I think different communities is the most powerful here) into a single Fediverse Feed.
Lemmy implements WebFinger (username@domain lookup) and “a subset of the ActivityPub Protocol, with some extensions” (https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/federation/lemmy_protocol.html).
I was able to follow a Lemmy community from Mastodon. (I haven’t seen what it looks like yet when posts start coming through.) I was not able to follow Lemmy communities from Epicyon, or Lemmy user accounts from either Mastodon or Epicyon.
@cel this is how it looks like
Cool, thanks Ваня!
Edit: the screenshot does not appear in Lemmy; I see it in Mastodon and Friendica.
I’m able to follow Lemmy accounts from Mastodon now. (Previously search was hanging, maybe the servers had to establish contact…)
Replying again just to note that the screenshot does not appear in Lemmy - and my edit saying so is not universally propogated (I see it in Friendica but not yet in Mastodon).
As I suppose Lemmy does not support the media attachment: Lemmy users can find the screenshot by navigating to Ваня’s post at the linked original page (source) - or by viewing this thread on other non-Lemmy instances via other remote participants here (via the small fediverse icon links).
