• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    We’re not cut off! We have the freedom to go bankrupt and usually get most of the care we need.

    I mean, sure, we could die even if we throw all we have at it. But we have the freedom to die! 'Merica!!

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    2 months ago

    I always make sure to have an American flag up in my room and a map of the US on my computer. America, fuck yeah!

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      2 months ago

      Tell me you’re still on your parents insurance plan without telling me you’re on your parents insurance plan.

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          Hi there. Had kidney failure for about 8 years.

          There was this one medication I badly needed to control secondary hyperparathyroidism. Literally used all avenues, and couldn’t get it approved or covered, other than by paying around 800$ for a single dose. I even had private insurance still at the time btw. The alternative was a surgery to remove a parathyroid gland which would then lead me to having other severe health complications if I got a kidney transplant. You know, due to now missing an organ.

          Second treatment in Finland when I was just VISITING, not even a resident yet - "oh, you’re PTH levels are extremely high. We’re going to give you “medicine I’ve been trying to get for months”.

          Just like that. No struggle even. Cost? 25$, and that includes the superior diafiltration treatment (USA only has dialysis, despite it giving poorer quality of life and lowering life expectancy, thanks to lobbying from DaVita.

          Anyway, fuck you 🙂

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            I’m really sorry you had to go through all of that, but it’s great that you finally managed to get the treatment you needed.

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              Less sick than if I had been in the USA 🙃

              Less dead, too.

              Hopefully you don’t end up in my situation. Or maybe it’s better you do 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                I’ll be fine, because I have access to quality healthcare here in the USA, like I’ve been saying already.

                You could really use some work on your tact. Perhaps you could get some mental health treatment in your healthcare utopia there.

                I’ll give one tip for free: if you want to gain the sympathy of someone you’re speaking to, you don’t tell them “fuck you” at all, because that is quite tactless.

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                  I’m not trying to get sympathy 🙂 I’m calling out your obvious bullshit with actual examples that shows you’re full of shit.

                  You’re so full of shit you can’t even argue against the example given, such as how the “quality healthcare” doesn’t even offer diafiltration. Hell y’all still do the step ladder sticking technique and use fax machines.

                  For the average person, healthcare there is partying like it’s 1998. I guess though if you’re a near millionaire it’s pretty good though.

                  But I guess I can’t fault you much for being so full of shit - I know it’s hard to schedule and get a basic colonoscopy there too.

                  I will say though, I hope you get kidney failure. It’d be for the greater good - not because of your suffering, but it’s clear you’re one of those that will only ever understand once they suffer, and only then would you actually try to help those less fortunate and make the world a better place.

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          So there’s no room for improvement then? Because I really don’t think it’s as accessible as other nations and your ability to heal shouldn’t depend on your job.

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            Meanwhile we’ve reached past global resource tipping points, yet there are still people who believe we can manage a post scarcity society.

            Idealism will be the death of us all.

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            Nowhere did I ever say anything like that. Not once did I say “the American healthcare system is perfect” or great or even good.

            What I said already is still there where I said it before. Please do not make up your own interpretations of my words, because you cannot speak for me.

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              Context isn’t real and won’t effect your English grades. “Americans have access to free healthcare…” Ahhh yes the fabled NHS America, if only, then when I go online people would be complaining about doctors not getting paid well enough, and not how everyone is paying huge chunks of money for literally any treatment of any kind.

              “Americans have access to free healthcare…” Is a disingenuous statement that ignores the financial damage private healthcare does to everyone.

              And yes Americans do have hospitals and doctors in the most literal sense, and you are unfortunate to go there if you want to be dept free. I hear ambulances are £5000 for a single ride.

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          ItS a sTrAiGhT-uP fAcT tHaT aMeRiCaNs dO hAvE aCcEsS tO hEaLtHcArE

          Dude you’re fucking deluded but I’m glad you personally have excellent insurance

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      This comment has no relevance to anything. If it was trying to imply that Americans don’t avoid healthcare due to cost, in effect denying Americans healthcare, it’s totally inaccurate. There are thousands of American citizens all over the USA that cannot afford healthcare, and Americans routinely avoid getting needed healthcare just to make ends meet.

      Even Americans with higher incomes avoid healthcare, and here is a link that mentions that specifically: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/health-care-costs-rising-americans/

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      “How dare you suggest we pay for free healthcare” - most Americans in Greta Thunberg ’ voice

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        Don’t Americans pay way more compared to most other countries because there’s little to no competition and/or price negotiation to reduce the cost of prescription drugs? I thought that was what people were saying, not that they don’t want to pay for healthcare. lol. How intellectually dishonest of you 😂