• infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    Just or not, I don’t see a way for Jews and Palestinians to peacefully and happily coexist in the same state.

    That’s odd, they coexisted just fine for the first 1300 years of Islam’s existence. There were maybe 3 instances in that whole period that Jews were excluded from certain areas by Arab or Islamic authorities, and these still weren’t blanket bans. Compare that to the dozens upon dozens of times that they were kicked out by Christian kingdoms. Ashkenazi Jews had no barriers to doing “aliyah” to Palestine where they met Mizrahi Jews who were still living in the region.

    Israel is an ethnostate that emerged from late-19th-century European nationalism. This is not true of Palestine, which has no ethnic exclusion and is more accurately part of the movement towards decolonization (whether Ottoman or British).

    Saying that “Palestinians would do the same to Jews” is not even a simple counterfactual. There is no evidence for it. A couple vague statements and actions by fundamentalist minority groups that were curated by Israel do not make an entire population guilty of a Tu Quoque malicious intent. This is a bad faith argument, and it sounds like you have absorbed it from ubiquitous repetition in spite of the egalitarian values you seem to have.

    The genocide in Rwanda was ended without splitting it up into two states, there is certainly precedent for inclusivity. Listen to what Palestinian voices are actually saying, not what they’re presumed to be saying by Israelis.