• OpenStars@startrek.website
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    Studies have shown that in places where porn is blocked, rape occurs at higher frequencies than in places where that is not the case, possibly due to higher levels of feelings of frustration and repression. This may be only one website now, but if others likewise follow the trend out of fear of litigation… then Texas may become a much more dangerous state to live in in the very near future, even compared to what it already is now.

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        Here’s a couple. Not a regional porn ban = more rape like previous poster said, but this is the most relevant data I could find. …and this data isn’t great. My main takeaway from this search is that we need to direct some actual research into what access to porn does vs doesn’t do. Also specific categories of porn - I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that sexual violence increases with consumption of porn that glorifies rape; but then if porn made a point to model good practices around things like obtaining consent, I’d wager sexual violence probably decrease.

        TLDR, it’s a complicated question, so take these with a grain of salt, but among the most credible sources I found, they trended toward porn and rape NOT being positively correlated.

        “Victimization rates for rape in the United States demonstrate an inverse relationship between pornography consumption and rape rates.”

        https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222552404_The_pleasure_is_momentarythe_expense_damnable_The_influence_of_pornography_on_rape_and_sexual_assault

         

        “The results showed that in none of the countries did rape increase more than nonsexual violent crimes [during a period of increased access to porn]. This finding in itself would seem sufficient to discard the hypothesis that pornography causes rape.”

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2032762/

         

        Not really a good block of text to quote, but the gist is: “Porn doesn’t cause rape, but there’s more going on than just direct cause and effect”

        https://vawnet.org/sites/default/files/materials/files/2016-09/AR_PornAndSV.pdf

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      Sounds like it works right into their plans for controlling the population by forcing people to give birth then. What a hellscape. I’m so sorry for the good humans that live there.

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      Why do you think they’re doing it? Republicans don’t get born out of consent.

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      More dangerous? You mean the amount of firearms littered throughout the damn state aren’t bad enough?

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        That’s… not just a Texas thing, and yeah, bc saturation may have long been passed on that one, so this is newer territory to expand authoritarianism into.

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        As in, it was dangerous, but a look at its next door neighbor Mississippi should convince anyone that it can always become more so.

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      While I disagree wholeheartedly with the relevant law, this is an incredibly dangerous argument to make against it. It insinuates an innate propensity towards sexual aggression and ignores many other factors that might occur alongside such laws.

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        There might be a misunderstanding. I was talking about a correlation between areas where where porn is blocked i.e. repressive regimes and rape. Not necessarily a casual effect from one directly to the other, although that might not be able to be ruled out either.

        Either way it is a question of fact, so not up to either of our mere opinions. Though I find that it is darn near impossible to find such things these days using Google - it refuses to show “relevant” results and instead tries to show only “recent” ones that it wants to promote, and DuckDuckGo is far too narrow to make that easy. So finding the full unvarnished truth is a research project that I do not want to undertake, though in case it helps to share my remembrance of having read such a thing once I thought I would offer. This is nowhere near my area of expertise so was only a comment not an authoritative statement of definitive fact.

        Also there could be other factors involved - e.g. higher incidents of rape in neighborhoods that tend towards being poorer and more heavily religious in nature, e.g. within the United States that would be Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas, etc. I don’t recall if the study checked for similar levels of poverty but with different religious leanings - if suitably comparable places could even be found.

        So my statement was saying how sad it is that Texas is choosing to become more like e.g. Florida rather than more like e.g. California, or to remain more of its own separate thing as it has done in the past. Becoming “repressive” does not sound conducive to good health (especially women’s health).

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          Sorry, I mistook you as indicating a casual relationship between the two. I do hope to find some data on the issue once I have time.

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            If you find it, let us all here on Lemmy know - it looks like people are very interested (I know I would be to see a refresher). The sad part is how this stuff has been known for decades, but people just ignore it - e.g. “just grab 'em by the p$#&y”. There are some, like John Oliver and Innuendo Studios, who are doing fantastic work to spread awareness of matters that need attention (and Jon Stewart is back, sort of:-), but ofc that won’t reach the ears of people who refuse to listen, and instead choose to highly regard those who spread fear and chaos, most likely purely for profit reasons.

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    I don’t understand, why not just mandate that parents should implement parental controls or something instead of blocking it for everyone? I think this is more the religious right agenda in action. Edit: not what pornhub did, but what TX was trying to do

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      Texas needs to control people because they believe in small government. How else do you display freedom and amall government other than restricting rights and punishing people? /s

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        Yes, this is part of their strategy to implement small government by controlling what hormones people can put in their bodies and whether they can have an abortion. The mandatory genital inspections for kids are also part of their small government initiative. #landofthefree

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            I really like the penis inspection day joke, because it constructs a narrative of systemic rape culture that would have easily been normalised if it were real, and draws attention to the normalisation. It gets people thinking about rape culture without even noticing that they’re thinking. And thereby vaccinates people against normalisation of systemic rape. I believe the shitposters who laughed at penis inspection day memes are more likely to understand the absurdity of actual anti-trans legislation.

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      oh! Didn’t know other people had those

      When I was maybe eight my good buddy convinced the tennagers to let us hang out with them

      They had a hang out area out in the woods. You had to climb under a fence while one of the strong kids lifted the bottom of the fence up. On the other side was a “river” you could cross with a swing rope someone had attached to the tree above. (it looked like a massive river as a kid. But after having gone back as an adult you could easily hop over without much notice)

      Anyway, we ended up going back there pretty regularly just as a way to get away from where the adults could find us. We ended up finding this massive stash of magazines one of the older kids had at the spot

      I was too young at the time to be interested but my buddy ended up stealing a couple so we could look at them with our other friends

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    This is dumb, Texas is the swinging capital of the US.

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    For people who says banning porn increases rape. That really feels like correlation not causation.

    Armenia for example is 4th country in terms of least rape Source Yet they ban pornography. World population review. Another would be Turkmenistan.

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      Big difference between reported rape and actual rape.

      That being said, I hope for Turkmenistan and Armenia these numbers are for actual rape, good on them if it’s low.

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        Yes, I agree generalisation is bad. But, I wanted to raise a counterpoint to what everyone here was saying. The end goal for the betterment of all of us is still no rape (hopefully one day).

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        Both countries have strong social constructs which imo will decrease the possibilities for potential rapists to act on their urges. It is imo not that the numbers of potential rapists is lower.

        What I doubt much more is that banning porn will significantly reduce actual porn consumption.

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          Egypt is lowest on the rape list. There is a huge stigma to report a rape in Egypt. From what I gather, nobody trusts the Egyptian numbers.

          My gut tells me the situation is similar in both Armenistan and Turkmenistan. Punishment for rape might be severe, but very likely the social pressure on the victims is also immense.

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    Reason: bruh moment

    Nice to see reddit is still as gross as it was when I left it

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      “Bruh moment” isn’t exclusive to the internet, and came before the reddit moment.

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              Okay, if that’s true, who cares it’s a website used by a tiny percentage of people and to 99.999% of people it wouldn’t be considered a nazi thing lmao some of you act like reddit is real life and not some crappy social media where people create echo chambers where they use downvotes and up votes to perpetuate their tiny bubble world view that isn’t representative of real life. I’ve never heard of this, it’s definitely something only the perpetually online think. Lol. You’re giving too much power to these Russian trolls, bots, and brain dead Maga americans.

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                  except I gave you actual reasons, GO OUTSIDE AND TALK TO REAL PEOPLE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. Youve interacted with too many russian bots.

                  Nazis adopted that term in the same way maga crowd turned pepe into a racist meme–they didnt and only idiots buy into what they say, and normal people dont actually care about alt right repurposing pop culture lol they are too focused on living their lives